WTBRotary's Drummond Build
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Well, after much thought and deliberation I felt it was about time to make a build thread. :wiggle:
After going through 3 remans in my late 2005 RX-8 and finally after getting denied for a new reman, I decided it was time for a proper engine for my 8. My old reman only dyno'd 180whp with my mods & a MM tune which means compression was low. Decided to go with Daryl Drummond as my builder. For the engine I used an 04 ORIGINAL engine, no reman, with 7K miles on the clock that had some autocross use on it. The Car: Late 2005 Winning Blue Mazda RX-8 GT with 76K miles. Old: Attachment 223716 Current: Attachment 223717 Attachment 223718 The Engine: Daryl Drummond Rebuild (262hp @ FW, 181 ft-lbs tq.)
Attachment 223719 Attachment 223720 Attachment 223721 New Build Modifications: Daryl Drummond Rebuild Progress Tech Springs (Replaces old Tein S.Tech springs) PowerGrid End-Links Racing Beat Short Tube Headers Racing Beat Oil Cooler Hose Set Greddy Spectrum Elite Exhaust (Replaces Racing Beat Rev8 exhaust) Mazmart Ron Davis Radiator RX8 Performance Motor Mounts Ingalls "Stiffy" Engine Damper New Koyo HD Release Bearing (Replaces my old Koyo HD w/15K miles) New OEM Radiator Hoses New OEM Fuel Pump New Gates Racing Performance Belts Mazda FL-22 coolant Flex Innovations Grounding Kit New Winning Blue Custom Paint Job from Advantage Autoworks Classic Car Resoration (www.AdvantageAutoworks.com | Autobody Collision Repair | Dallas - Ft. Worth) Attachment 223722 Attachment 223723 Attachment 223724 Attachment 223725 These aren't all of my mods, only the new mods bought for this Drummond build Current List of Modifications: Engine & Exhaust: Daryl Drummond Rebuild (262hp FW., 181 ft-lbs tq.) Greddy Spectrum Elite Exhaust Racing Beat Short Tube Headers Racing Beat Oil Cooler Hose Set BHR Midpipe w/o Davesport Cat AEM CAI BHR Ignition System BHR 9lb Flywheel Exedy "Mazdaspeed" Clutch Koyo HD Release Bearing RX8Performance Motor Mounts Ingalls "Stiffy" Engine Damper Gates Racing Performance Belts Racing Beat AC/Oil Cooler screens Cooling: Mazmart Ron Davis Radiator Mazmart Thermostat 76C Mazmart Waterpump Suspension, Wheels, Tires, and Brakes: Enkei RPF1 18x9.5 +45mm Michelin PSS 265/35-18 Progress Tech Springs Koni Yellow Shocks Progress Tech F/R Sways Mazdaspeed F/R Strut Bars Racing Brake Slotted Rotors F/R Racing Brake SS brake lines Agency Power SS clutch line Hawk HP+ brake pads PowerGrind F/R Endlinks Engine Management: Cobb AP Exterior: Fresh Winning Blue Paint Appearance Package w/ Front Bumper Clear Bra (Totally worth it) Seibon CF TS hood custom painted WB Enkei RPF1's |
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Old reman:
180whp w/ mods & tune = no bueno Attachment 223714 Then Boom went the dynamite! It still ran though somehow... Attachment 223715 |
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Aside from our builders it seems are builds are very similar.
Looking forward to final WHP numbers |
Taking into consideration drivetrain loss of 15-20% should give me a realistic ~220whp
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Not reading until you put a turbo on.
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Thats where I was hopping to be, suffered high RPM misfires and only managed 190WHP at 7K RPM. Have not been able to resolve the issue yet, so waiting until summer to try it again.
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Originally Posted by shadycrew31
(Post 4546267)
Not reading until you put a turbo on.
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Originally Posted by Carbon8
(Post 4546268)
Thats where I was hopping to be, suffered high RPM misfires and only managed 190WHP at 7K RPM. Have not been able to resolve the issue yet, so waiting until summer to try it again.
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Originally Posted by WTBRotary!
(Post 4546269)
^^^ Hey now! I read the rules for this section and it has porting done to it!!! :FIREdevil
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WTB, don't dyno your 8. If you are happy after getting it tuned just drive it man.
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Yeah, I mean I already know roughly what its gonna make. I really don't want to dyno it because of the discrepancies in different dynos etc. I feel I am gonna be happy considering I haven't been able to redline my 8 in over a year... I can't wait for the first WOT run to hear that rotary roar!!!
Lets just say a dyno is not on my list of priorities... |
Myself, Charles, and Kane are still not sure what's causing my misfire all components are brand new. I will worry about it in the spring when I can drive it again. In sure it will get sorted out.
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^^^ Carbon, who was your engine builder?
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how much is one of these engines? Mine has low compression and I'd rather not buy one from mazda since it will likely fail again.
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^^^ Its not cheap. Drummond doesn't build his engines to street specifications, He builds race engines. Therefore, I paid a pretty penny for this gem... I would not recommend Daryl Drummond for any average rebuild.
If you would like pricing I suggest you email him at daryl@drummondengines.com |
Originally Posted by SPHINX144
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how much is one of these engines? Mine has low compression and I'd rather not buy one from mazda since it will likely fail again.
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
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Just take the price of a ported engine from Pettit or Pineapple Racing and more than double it.
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Originally Posted by WTBRotary!
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Not quite that high... but when you include all new OEM seals and shipping its close to double... :eyetwitch
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Originally Posted by shadycrew31
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A new petit build with new everything is around $5500 no shipping.
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My pettit build was under 4K with shipping :dunno:
Of course my core had 29K on it and was not damaged nor suffered low compression so I was able to reuse housings, irons, and rotors. Just needed bearings, seals, and portwork |
The engine I used only had 7K miles with some autocross use, and was an original engine. So I reused the housings, irons and rotors as well...
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Originally Posted by Carbon8
(Post 4546303)
My pettit build was under 4K with shipping :dunno:
Of course my core had 29K on it and was not damaged nor suffered low compression so I was able to reuse housings, irons, and rotors. Just needed bearings, seals, and portwork |
What was his break in procedure?
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