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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 11:16 PM
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Ugraded Transmission?

Does anyone know of any upgraded tranny, or all out replacement I can put into my 04 manual? I just ripped mine out!!
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 11:43 PM
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The only thing I have ever seen was a 5 speed replacement that was upgraded for the RX7. Never seen an upgraded 6 speed. I woulda thought that since the tranny is an Asain, it would be pretty decent.

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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 11:47 PM
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Have a 5 Speed swap I am working on.
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Fluid Motorsports
Have a 5 Speed swap I am working on.
Damn dude!

You are picking up where Mazsport left off. Good job!
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by joepatterson
Does anyone know of any upgraded tranny, or all out replacement I can put into my 04 manual? I just ripped mine out!!
Use 09+ model transmission

direct fit.
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by nycgps
Use 09+ model transmission

direct fit.
What improvements did Mazda make?
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by nycgps
Use 09+ model transmission

direct fit.
Or a Mazport 5-spd conversion... good luck on finding one though.
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by turborx8
What improvements did Mazda make?
Final gearing was changed, the reverse gear is actually in the top left instead of bottom right, different transmission housing. That's all I can recall...
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Renesis SE3P
Final gearing was changed, the reverse gear is actually in the top left instead of bottom right, different transmission housing. That's all I can recall...
Big deal.

We need a tranny that can handle some HP.
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 01:04 AM
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Here you go:

Originally Posted by Jason Saini
****UPDATE - I HAVE THE CONFIRMED '09 RATIOS, AND THEY ARE DIFFERENT. 3RD is 1.536, and 6TH is .787... so, good news for cruising, bad news for 3-4 rev drop. They should have just changed 6th. I will updated these charts accordingly, but another time. Cocktails are calling!****

I figured I'd start a new thread because my gear chart got buried pages deep within the misinformation of the other thread.

The 'strengthened' transmission, is acutally the MX-5 transmission. I saw a new RX-8 version of it when I was in the Mazda Tech center in Irvine last month. This is 100% confirmed. Completely different transmission, with slightly different ratios than the current Aisin box.

Provided the ratios don't change from the MX-5 transmission, the following should be a very accurate gear chart showing the differences between an '04-'08 car and the '09 R3. I omitted 1st gear from this, but first is significantly shorter, so it will run out sooner.

I'll work to verify that the ratios aren't going to change. We hope to have a test-mule transmission here to play with in a month or so, and when we do I'll let everyone know how it holds up.


Car (1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th FD)
04-'08' RX-8 (3.760 - 2.269 - 1.645 - 1.187 - 1.000 - 0.843 - 4.440)
09' RX-8 R3 (3.815 - 2.260 - 1.640 - 1.177 - 1.000 - 0.832 - 4.770)

Revs @60, '04-'08 RX-8 - 2nd - 8391.9 / 3rd - 6084.1 / 4th - 4390.1 / 5th - 3698.5 / 6th - 3117.9
Revs @60, '09 RX-8 R3 - 2nd - 8807.4 / 3rd - 6391.2 / 4th -4586.9 / 5th - 3897.1 / 6th - 3242.4


Speed @Redline, '04-'08 RX-8 - 2nd - 63.6 / 3rd - 87.8 / 4th - 121.6 / 5th - 144.4 / 6th - 171.3
Speed @Redline, '09 RX-8 R3 - 2nd - 60.6 / 3rd - 83.6 / 4th - 116.4 / 5th - 137.0 / 6th - 164.7


Rev drop, '04-'07 RX-8 - 2nd to 3rd - 6746.7 / 3rd to 4th - 6715.0 / 4th to 5th - 7839.9 / 5th to 6th - 7845.0
Rev drop, '09 RX-8 R3 - 2nd to 3rd - 6885.3 / 3rd to 4th - 6809.6 / 4th to 5th - 8061.4 / 5th to 6th - 7894.2
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 02:30 AM
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I question the economy of replacing the 6sp with a old/rebuilt 5 speed.

I would rather address the weak areas of the original or new 6spd.
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 06:42 AM
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T56 will be yout best bet... No more broken trans... do it right from the get go...

There is a shop up in Michigan that does the swap....
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Fluid Motorsports
Have a 5 Speed swap I am working on.
me too! well not at this moment oh btw for personal use.
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 06:51 PM
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i wish there was some type of option for an upgrade i was thinking about a T-56 as well but i wonder how much of the work of getting a bellhouseing and such to work and to make it fit properly, i know the guy on the RX7 site use the T-56 with no problems on theres i need soemthing i can beat up on sometimes . My friend has one in his mustange with a pro shifter and shifting gears the handle barley moves an inch, only thing tho i dont want a hard a clutch pedal,
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by sauceyI986
i wish there was some type of option for an upgrade i was thinking about a T-56 as well but i wonder how much of the work of getting a bellhouseing and such to work and to make it fit properly, i know the guy on the RX7 site use the T-56 with no problems on theres i need soemthing i can beat up on sometimes . My friend has one in his mustange with a pro shifter and shifting gears the handle barley moves an inch, only thing tho i dont want a hard a clutch pedal,
The t56 is pretty easy swap... not cheap but well worth it in the end.
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