Which Turbo kit is Better Greedy or SFR
03-22-2005, 01:12 PM
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Which Turbo kit is Better Greddy or SFR
Any recommendation on turbo kits should i go with the Greedy or Speed Force Racing. Any ideas of which is better would be awesome.
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03-22-2005, 01:35 PM
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Budgets are very deceiving. I've been pricing out a turbo conversion and I'm looking at more in accessories than the turbo kit itself. Two dual digital gauges alone are over $500...
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03-22-2005, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by WinningBlueSP3
budget 5k if i need more i can get it if i really need to
IIRC, the SFR turbo system isn't really a kit...I think that's the kit where the business wants $5,000 for MOST of the kit, then, if you want to install and use it, you have to find your own way of adding fuel.
GReddy Turbo kit = Known product, and has everything one needs. AND cheaper.
03-22-2005, 03:47 PM
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$5000 won't even get you the complete SFR kit. Right now they are offering the turbo kit at a "special" introductory price of $4,995, but that is with no fuel mgmt with that kit. That will cost you an additional $300-$1300 depending on which unit you want to use. Now after that you are talking about $1200 for the installation, $400 for the gauges.
Honestly, the SSR/SFR is probably the better kit, but unless you have about $7500 to $8000 to complete the kit when all is said & done you won't be able to afford that kit. The Greddy kit is about $2900-$3000 street price, $1200 for the install & tuning, $400 for the gauges, $180 for the BOV & you are close to the $5K limit you set for yourself.
It's really about $5K for 240 whp or $8K for 290 whp. Your call. I'm not sure which one is more important for you absolute hp or absolute budget.
Honestly, the SSR/SFR is probably the better kit, but unless you have about $7500 to $8000 to complete the kit when all is said & done you won't be able to afford that kit. The Greddy kit is about $2900-$3000 street price, $1200 for the install & tuning, $400 for the gauges, $180 for the BOV & you are close to the $5K limit you set for yourself.
It's really about $5K for 240 whp or $8K for 290 whp. Your call. I'm not sure which one is more important for you absolute hp or absolute budget.
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03-22-2005, 04:46 PM
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Dmp wrong, Fanman your right, there's an option for everyone, it all depends on what your looking for...... Power/But you pay the price, or Price/But lower power, Something for everyone
03-22-2005, 04:53 PM
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Dmp wrong, Fanman your right, there's an option for everyone, it all depends on what your looking for...... Power/But you pay the price, or Price/But lower power, Something for everyone
I'm not wrong...A turbo system is NOT a 'kit' unless it includes those things required to use it. It'd be like buying a "Kit" to build a fence, then find out you are missing all the pickets.
It's Five THOUSAND dollars for a turbo system nobody who hasn't already spent $500? more? on fueling options will be able to use.
It'd be better to just consider the SFR a $6,000 kit. that'd make more sense, imo.
03-22-2005, 04:56 PM
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it depends on what kind of power u want out of the kits. so far, i havent seen much power out of the kits for a hefty price. the greddy kits have been producing close numbers to the flywheel hp numbers that mazda set for the rx-8. on a supra, a $5k kit could put ur car in the 500-600 hp range.
03-22-2005, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JSE RX-8
it depends on what kind of power u want out of the kits. so far, i havent seen much power out of the kits for a hefty price. the greddy kits have been producing close numbers to the flywheel hp numbers that mazda set for the rx-8. on a supra, a $5k kit could put ur car in the 500-600 hp range.
whp. That is closer to 220 hp. Greddy turbo kits are giving the
stated 60 whp gain. No BS. 170 whp to 240 whp, dyno proven.
2. Comparing a NA stock car to a twin turbo stock car is apples &
oranges. A better comparison would have been an stock NA
Supra (220 hp), which would have taken much more $ to make
hp. Many turbo cars are built for boost, most NA cars are not.
03-22-2005, 06:52 PM
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thanks all for your input im glad i dont have to worry about install and tuning. It looks like its goingto be Greedy, I want that little power that puts the car where it should have been out of the factory. Again thanks to you all for the advise.
03-22-2005, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Rotoman
Hey DMP, I'am not wrong, you said the Greddy kit has everything one needs, not true, what if you want 290whp. Everyone is different with different needs..
Greddy= kit ready to be installed
SSR= "kit" that requires additional purchases enable to use.
Correct me if Im wrong, but I believe that is what DMP is saying.
03-22-2005, 08:35 PM
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Ummm, see what? Please explain.
I like both kits..hell it doesnt even matter as I cant afford one.
But I dont see how YOU cant see it. You cant seel a "kit" that still requires additional purchases in order to use said "kit".
If anything SSR should sell one kit with the TSI option for "x" amount of money, and another kit with the Emanage for "Y' amount of money. Thats a kit.
I like both kits..hell it doesnt even matter as I cant afford one.
But I dont see how YOU cant see it. You cant seel a "kit" that still requires additional purchases in order to use said "kit".
If anything SSR should sell one kit with the TSI option for "x" amount of money, and another kit with the Emanage for "Y' amount of money. Thats a kit.
03-22-2005, 08:51 PM
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i agree with cam and dmp. the ssr turbo does not come complete, unless you buy a seperate fuel management system it would be, however if it came with a base kit that would come with a fuel management system (like what cam mentioned). Where as the greddy turbo comes with everything you need for the suggested price of 3k, not 3k and buy the emanage at a seperate price of 500 dollars. Granted ssr kit comes with all the power you need, but not for the deceiving price of 5k, calculate it, it comes way more than that in the end with installation you would pay near double the greddy kit.
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Listen, you guys are right, I don't like that idea either.... I do know for a fact SFR/SSR kit is made with better components and I wish their Pricing wasn't that high but what are we going to do.. Obviously the parts cost more and is put together in the US, not in Japan so that plays apart also... But if like they say that the kit with all the components will put out 335/350 HP at the wheels.. safely , That's what I wanted... but each his own...
03-22-2005, 09:42 PM
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Oh, im not arguing the SSR doesnt include better components. Hell, it looks like theyve thrown everything but the kitchen sink in there. And I agree on "you get what you pay for".
But, w/o fuel management included in the price, a "kit" it is not.
But, w/o fuel management included in the price, a "kit" it is not.
03-22-2005, 10:23 PM
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GReddy
not Greedy.
As far as the kit itself, GReddy is made so you can start simple and upgrade with time.
Someone who buys the GReddy kit for $3000 and invests another $2000 in it (fuel mods, ignition and injector harness for e-manage, 3" exhaust, bigger, badder turbo, tuning) should see well past 300 whp.
not Greedy.
As far as the kit itself, GReddy is made so you can start simple and upgrade with time.
Someone who buys the GReddy kit for $3000 and invests another $2000 in it (fuel mods, ignition and injector harness for e-manage, 3" exhaust, bigger, badder turbo, tuning) should see well past 300 whp.
03-22-2005, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Cam
Oh, im not arguing the SSR doesnt include better components. Hell, it looks like theyve thrown everything but the kitchen sink in there. And I agree on "you get what you pay for".
But, w/o fuel management included in the price, a "kit" it is not.
But, w/o fuel management included in the price, a "kit" it is not.
kitchen sinks are available, but it's an extra $1500
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03-23-2005, 03:48 PM
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Id Go with the Greddy, Like cretinx said, eventually u put the extra cash for ur fuel mods etc... and youll be straight, im puttin out 268 rwhp at 8lbs of boost, give me some time and ill be up to that 300 mark, go wit the greddy man, be patient and theyll perfect it to the T and we can start getting some Upgrades, if u ask me SFR kit will end up sendin ur engine through the hood after about 1500 miles. TOO MUCH HEAT IN THE ENGINE BAY
03-23-2005, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Rotoman
Listen, you guys are right, I don't like that idea either.... I do know for a fact SFR/SSR kit is made with better components and I wish their Pricing wasn't that high but what are we going to do.. Obviously the parts cost more and is put together in the US, not in Japan so that plays apart also... But if like they say that the kit with all the components will put out 335/350 HP at the wheels.. safely , That's what I wanted... but each his own...
Safely...there's the key word. People who think like I do feel ANY aftermarket turbo kit isn't 'safe' until proven so. Frankly, there doesn't exist enough available data to make a number of us feel 'safe' about boosting the car. Engine. Transmission. Axles. Clutches. Motor Mounts. Those things need to be okay with the boost.
