^^^ I think Phil got there, or is at least damn close

Phil's SC'd 8 isn't quite at 300. Yet.

Considering that in 7 years we STILL have not seen a 300whp AT I'd say that statement is just a tad optimistic . Not to mention that there are not that many 300whp MTs out there either .

but he has moneyz to spend

but then again not enough to start with a 6 spd instead

fanboi? Right.
You obviously have ZERO experience with your car. You probably regret the purchase, but are too far into it to give it up.
I was trying to give you advice, but now you just seem like a numpty kid who wants a better car than the one he's stuck with. Auto to Manual swap? Good luck.
Enjoy your "crappy car". When it blows, hopefully you'll get rid of it and buy a civic

For the sub'd. Car is finished and running, just waiting for MM to fly to SoCal to tune. If not, I won't have dyno results for at least six months as the car will sit or change ECUs from Cobb to something more user friendly and less controlled by MM

Some comments on the forum are already wrong as there are 4 port autos over 300. I'll send private messages to some of the sub'd with dyno results and keep off the forum.

Thanks

The Cobb is not an ECU, it's just a flash device and datalogger/code reader. And the Cobb Access port itself is very user friendly, you just have to know what you are doing when using the Cobb ATR software to tune. Even if you went with a stand alone ECU you would still need a tuner. MM is not the only person who can tune using a Cobb either, FYI. But he is great at it and would be your most logical choice.

As for the 300WHP four port comment, put up or shut up. By reading your last few posts it's pretty obvious you don't know a whole lot.

I didn't think I needed to know anything when paying someone else to do the work. I don't see how that statement (me not knowing about my car) has any bearing on the fact that 300 has been obtained by a 4 port.

I'm simply stating that the others who post their opinion as fact are wrong. Sorry I won't be posting my own personal numbers for you to see or arguing with you further.

Ofcourse Jeff at MM is not the only person who can tune, but he almost seems to control the Cobb market. I called Cobb support and the only support they provided was to call MM who ofcourse flat out said he won't respond to phone, text or email. Pluss, his tuning days are only once or twice a month and on work days for a few hours only. That is the kind of support you get when you buy Cobb. Being new, not a lot of "other tuners" have base maps making tunning take a lot longer and cost more money. Forget using MM base maps for those are password protected for some reason. Not bashing MM, I think Cobb being new has some fault and I think MM provides one of the best services, the fly to destination, live tunning, unforunately, this should have been my first choice as the remote tunning and support is not very flexible.

I took the car to another shop who said they know Cobb and 5 hours later at $150/hour said they can't figure it out. Some other issue with Cobb not sending commands to the ECU.

Anyways getting to the Turblown vs Petite topic back on track, I'd like to give good recommendations for the turblown kit. He fits all parts on an Rx8 before shipping to ensure proper fitment pluss he supports his product 100% and was available every day over instant message. The car is now running with this kit in under 30 days since purchasing the kit online. This included custom fabricating all parts and having a friend do the install after work.

Post numbers and photos or it didn't happen.

To make an educated decision on turbocharging an RX-8 , it would be necessary to know as much as you can comprehend. Not educating yourself is just stupid.

Saying a four port Renesis has made 300WHP is such a vague and silly statement. Did it make 300WHP for a day? Is it still putting down 300WHP? Why is it such a big freakin' secret? It's just retarded that you are being so secretive about what you supposedly know. I have found that most self proclaimed experts are not experts at all.

And your statements don't mean jack as far as I am concerned because you have no credit here. I could give a sh$t less what numbers you put down but if you are not interested in sharing or possibly proving people wrong then why are you here?

MM does not control the Cobb Market entirely. Is he the only vender of the Cobb AP for the RX-8? Yes. But you can choose to just buy the Cobb AP alone from MM and not use his tuning services. There are "base maps" available and if you did any research you would know that. But the chances are that those base maps would be useless to your particular build. MM's maps are his work product and he can choose to run his business as he pleases, why should he offer you a free map anyway? The Cobb is not new and many will disagree and tell you his live tuning service is actually pretty convenient.

Well that doesn't surprise me, a lot of shops think tuning the RX-8 is easy until they actually try it. And then they blame everything but themselves when the tune is jacked up and the motor blows. Cobb not sending commands to the ECU? What a boat load of bullshit.

I have heard great things about Turblown and they seem like a great outfit and I am actually considering some of their products. That said, a well designed turbo kit isn't worth a shit without proper tuning.

I 100% agree with 9K. If your gonna spend shit load of money + w/e tuning and not willing to show off your dyno numbers, somethin is wrong. If I could put down 300 whp thats bragging rights. It puts your ride off from others. Not a typical rx8 but originality and personality is what I respect.

yall give the guy a break---he came on the forum with a simple question--he got some good advice and proceeded. He admits he doesnt know how to do things himself, yet he is willing to pay for good services. Yea he made a statement that he will make 300 rwhp with an AT car. Turblown backed him up on that. He doesnt have to prove anything to anybody.
If yall dont believe you can get 300 rwhp from a 4 port engine, make it worth my while and hell i will do it! And it will be as reliable as any FI rx8.
Sorry to go on about this---i just remember when I first came in and how much I had to learn, and still am after over 8 years of messing with it. Yall are making good points and I think he gets it. So lets see what happens?

Thanks, 9k sounds like he wants to fight somebody haha. I don't remember saying I made 300rwp but whatever. And once MM dyno tunes my car, I won't be posting results no matter what horsepower. I'm just using the forum for information, not friends, bragging rights or social networking. Some statements that 9k and others said like having to comprehend all information regarding a turbo before professionals install one on my car makes me feel like I'm living in a fast and furious movie. The comments are as obscure as not double clutching.

best wishes for positive results that you are happy with

:lol: I'm not fighting you bro. But it sounds like you have it all figured out so rock on.

von--9K has some good points and it actually trying to help in his own way. He is actually a good guy.
You see--with this unique car once FI is professionally installed and tuned the owner still needs to have a great understanding of what is going on. This is a temperamental engine to add FI too. It's not one that you can just get done and then drive it with no problems. Yep FI can be done and made pretty reliable BUT, the owner needs to be aware of some warning signs of problems as they are going to come. And if the owner is not aware of these and the probable cause, then a catastrophic event could occur. We would hate to see that.
You sound like a very intelligent guy thats willing to do what is needed. A lot of good info is on this forum and believe it or not no one on this forum whats to see you have problems with your car.
You are certainly off to a good start with a solid build. Keep us posted. Glad to see another AT car get boosted.
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Good luck with your build, don't worry about what these guys say but knowledge is power! Seriosly though just post the numbers up, I'll be surprised if you get 300 hp, just my opinion though.

changed your mind already? :rolleyes:

https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...&postcount=436

Post numbers, ignore negative comments.

Fine, but MM doesn't fly to SD until 17th of Jan. So i'll let you know then. Tuning is already paid for

That's the spirit! :yelrotflm

211rwp/187tq @6psi

Ignition breakup past 5k above 6psi. Towing car to shop to figure out what's up with ignition breakup

Oh boy.

Bugger