HardHitter

Some of the cars I hang around are highly modded, 400awhp Audi S4, 700rwhp 350Z, and then some really real fast Camero's/Mustangs and then a 500rwhp 3rd Gen RX-7.

Only thing is with these guys, they are all rich and their parents pay for all of their mods. I know I could probably be able to push close to some of that power, however, I definatly do not have the job or money in order to make that power all at once.

I basically want to be able to gain respect by having atleast some power on the 8, because I hate when people talk trash about it saying it was a waste of money and the 8 deserves so much more than that.

I do not race like these guys do, they go race on the streets at night, which in my eyes is stupid. I do not race on the streets, I want to go to a track and do it just to have some fun, and if someone wants to play around a little while I'm just cruising, I'll have the power to keep up with some of the cars around here.

But like you said, more power = more money

Sigma

Well, right now, nothing short of a Triple-Rotor swap is gonna have you hanging with those guys. And you surely don't have that kind of money.

240rwhp should have you doing mid-13s. So that should give you an idea of what you can hang with; which would be a lot. 300rwhp should have you pulled high-12s. Which would outrun just about anything produced in significant numbers and certainly surprise the hell out of anyone who thought you were 'slow'.

HardHitter

That's exactly what I want Sigma, I just want my car to basically look stock on the outside so they think nothing is on it, and then when they do want to have a little fun, I'll surprise them or atleast try and keep up with my friends.

So in short, I guess I will pay the 4k right now to get the Turbo/installed and then later on down the road, slowly build up to 300rwhp. Once I'm out of college, have my college paid off and have a steady job, then I might go ahead and push for more power, but in the mean time, from what I am hearing 300rwhp is enough to get the 8 moving pretty quick.

Longhornxtreme

I don't agree with the idea that the only way the renesis is going to make power is with a tri rotor swap...

Its just that noones taken the risk and slapped a LARGE turbo on the RX8 yet... believe me, its got more potential than people give it credit...

adrian-1

Did you just call yourself stupid?

On a serious note, even if your just cruising, don't play around on the street. The Greddy is capable of doing mid 13's once tuned properly. Even at my track, any car that runs 13.99 and faster 1/4miles , the driver will need a helmet.

EyeBall Fixer...(o)(x)

Say, for instance, that you achieve 300 or 350 HP to the wheels...
Do you think the rest of the "stock" drive train could handle this increase in power?

How about a dual turbo (Like my 93 RX7).
It seemed (to my recollection) that my 7 had fairly smooth acceleration all the way to red-line with her dual setup.

Sigma

Well, that's why I qualified my statement with "right now". I'm sure the Renesis has a load of potential, but "right now" nothing's available. And if something is available no one's got the ***** to try it yet.

RX8PR

Sorry but there is already a 393 HP RX8.
I mention it before........................
:D

Manuel

Sigma

Yeah, I know, but that's not available in a kit that someone can buy off the shelf, install over the weekend, and drive to work on Monday morning. And even that if you got it on the road wouldn't hang with the cars that he listed that his friends have.

RX8PR

I think that his friends cars are not maked with a kit buyed on a shelf
probably they spend a lot of money........................

He said,
"they are all rich and their parents pay for all of their mods"

that explain all................


Manuel

HardHitter

Ok, I had a talk with Rick from Rick's Rotary Shop and he really helped me out with informing me about the turbo and the needs of pushing the Renesis and all of that.

I've decided for now, I am just going to get the Greddy installed with a BOV. Now, I'm debating on which BOV to get. I know there is a HKS, and three types of Greddy BOV's. I was looking at the Type-S from Greddy, but I saw the new Type-RS from Greddy and was wondering about that one. I tried a search and couldn't find anything, so if someone could help me out with the BOV's that would be great. Do they sound different? Is one better than the other? Is one louder than the other? etc etc.

Fanman

I have the Greddy Type S on mine & it works fine. The difference between the Type S & Type RS is the valve opening on the Type S is 37 mm, & on the Type RS it is 40 mm. But given that we are not pushing very much boost through our cars either is fine. The Type RS is actually quieter than the Type S. The HKS SSV is a very fine BOV as well.

Ajax

The 3rd gen RX7 was a twin sequential setup and put out 255hp. I don't know about stock, but MOST of the 3rd gens that have been modified and still have the stock twins dont have that smooth of a power curve at all. If you get on that pedal, when the first turbo spins up (<3k rpm), it's gonna throw you back and it's gonna do it again when the second one spools up. I personally thought that was a lot of fun

Rotarygod will tell you that that system is far too complicated. It's beautiful to think about but I'm still just a beginner so he's probably 100% correct. The other problem is where to put the twins in this car. You'd have a hell of a time finding space under the hood for them without relocating everything and it's brother to the trunk and your expense just went way up.

Longhornxtreme

Twin turbos aren't the answer for our renesis... The only reason twin's are needed are in V6 and V8 applications and that's mainly due to exhaust manifold reasons... Twin turbos mess with the torque curve, add complexity, and add heat...

Moostafa29

Have you thought about a new clutch, or even gauges yet? Most will at least get gauges so they can know what their system is doing. Maybe you should wait a week or two so you can get those installed at the same time.

HardHitter

Yes, I've been looking at guages/pods right now. I know I want to get the Defi guages cause they match perfectly with the RX-8's guages, now where can I find the pod? I don't have navigation, so I want them to be where the navigation would usually be. I've seen I think Adrian-1's pods and I loved them.

EDIT: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=7985606246 this is basically exactly what I want, but $400+ for just the pod is a little more than I want to spend. (I don't know if this auction includes to guages or not, if it does, then the price would make more sense)

Sigma

That price doens't include the gauges. That's the PTP Gauge Pod and $400 ain't bad, since it goes for $550 (I believe) and the waiting list is rather long if I recall correctly.

Fanman

I'm going to be putting up some Greddy gauges soon. Really cheap. Might not match the interior but at 40%-50% off.....and hell, everything will be Greddy.

Moostafa29

I still think the PTP pod looks the cleanest, but it is a little pricey. You pay for what you get though. I also liked the pod that fit where the cigarette lighter is, but I guess there were problems shipping it from Japan.

HardHitter

Well since the guages are a little more than I expected (~$200 per guage) do I really need the other guages right now. The main one I really need is the boost reading right? Don't know where I would place the pod though.

adrian-1

$79 for my pod. Search or PM me on how to get it.

HardHitter

How is that stuck on the dash? 3M tape?

I could probably make a fiberglass that will mold that into the dash too, maybe if people are intersted, I could mass produce some for cheaper.

Fanman

I would definitely get a boost gauge. Honestly I would get an Exhaust Gas Temperature gauge or Air/Fuel gauge as well. My EGT has saved my bacon a few times. Told me I was riding the turbo too hard for too long & the engine was heating up.

Let me know what everybody thinks :

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=66326

HardHitter

I'm trying to part everything together so I will know the final cost before I go and buy everything. I need help finding the lowest price on a Greddy Type-S BOV and Defi guages/pod.
This is my list so far

Turbo - $3000
BOV - I'm guessing $200?
Turbo Guage/Pod - Around $250-$300?
Install everything / tuning by Rotary Extreme - $1000

So I need to find the best/cheapest place to find Type-S BOV and Defi BF boost guage and a pod for mounting it. Any help would be appreciated.

Fanman

Cheapest place I found for the Type S BOV is :

http://www.city-speed.com/webstore/e...y_BlowOff.html

at $164.

This is where I ordered my turbo from. I don't think they are an authorized Greddy Re-seller, but you should be OK with just the BOV (had problems getting a missing piece of piping for my kit). also remember you need to get the aluminum flange to mount onto your piping so that you can fit a BOV onto your turbo kit.