What? These two work together now?

 

Aparantly the CZ unit has always been just a "plug and play" eManage... pre-programmed maps and cables (no cutting necessary). I really haven't followed too much on it recently, but that is about what I have gathered...

 

Yep, they alway have been the same. The Canzoomer Stage 1 is a Greddy eManage board that has been repackaged in a generic aluminum box. It is also pre-wired and programed so that you can just plug it into the factory wiring harness. Maurice has just gone out of his way to try to make tuning our cars "plug and play". If you want to save a few bucks you can buy an eManage instead. Then you will have to spend the time to figure out the wiring and create your own fuel maps. For me, it made more sense to buy the Canzoomer so that I wouldn't have to waste my time with the wiring and base fuel maps.

 

Guys,
Yes, my 1.1 is working well. The stage 2 and 3 I BELIEVE is adaptable enough for FI but requires a highflow cat and midpipe and I BELIEVE also(if not mistaken) that to tune you will also need a wide band o2 sensor. I may be wrong about that. The 1.1 is a pre set but is reprogramable. Ask Omni he has had to do that because he was unlucky enough to get one of THOSE 8's that had a squirrelly maf!
olddragger

 

Im getting the Stage 1.1 in a few weeks. Larry Smith was saying that I would have to get rid of it if I got the S/C. Will the stage 2 or 3 work with it?

 

Squirrley car, actually. Not sure if it's solely the MAF, although I'm sure that's part (if not all) of it.

Also, I have it on good authority that (a) the a/f and ignition advance used by the Sunflower kit is the same CZ unit we're all familiar with. It might have to be retrofitted by CZ to work with the new kit, but otherwise it's just different maps. (b) Those same said maps are pretty much done, and the car runs REALLY REALLY strong, and (c) The plumbing and some of the mounting bits are being redesigned, and the finalization of the kit is about a month out... at most, 2.

All I can say for now, so please don't ask for more details. But I figured it was time the info pool was added to a little bit.

 

If you look in the box you will see a small yellow plug in one corner of the main board. This is where you plug in a MAP sensor.

The thing is just now running, and as I type Maurice may be doing maps. Oh, and it whines something fearce. You will not sneak up or hide the fact it's there!

It's "bolt in", but only literally. Remove front bumper cover. Remove airbox, battery box, undertray. etc. etc. Not an easy install!

Personally I don't think this (boosing an RX-8) is a good idea, but I guess I'm just too conservative. I suspect the transmission will not be happy - not to mention what the motor will do. Maybe I just want my 3rd gen in exclusive territory, accelleration wise.

 

heathen!

 

I'm pretty sure the stock internals including the tranny can handle 40-50 more WHP, if not we have some real issues. Miata folks have been pushing there stock tranny's beyond that with no issue, so I don't see why our tranny would be any different. Now those wanting 300WHP may need to upgrade the tranny internals some, but I think we should be able to get into FD territory in terms of power and aceleration with out to many problems if the FI kits will work.

Stock FD's can hunt 911's when bored, I think thats enough power for me.

 

Only nonturbo 911's and even that is a big challenge.

 

How much power do you guys think this car needs before it can compete with the best of them? IMO, I'm looking at 360+ rwhp. However, this car weighs significantly more than the FD3S, and is a tank compared to the Elise (out of its league?). Where do we draw the line on performance, without compromising everything else?

 

Key word here is "stock"

 

350 rwhp will turn the 8 into a real mean street machine able to compete with the big boys as long as they are mostly stock. Any 911 Turbo, modified Z06/Cobra/Viper will still be a tough bag to handle. But to push 350 to the wheels we are looking at some high boost applications. One can only cross their fingers and hope...................

 

I thought the FD was 2850lbs or so. That's only 150 less than an 8 [give or take] Not that big of a deal.

 

....I think a 4 rotor twin turbo 1000whp would be about right for the RX-8. With minor modifications to a very large bank account - It could be done.

Probably have to get a certification from the FAA as well.

Honostly, I would never be "done" until I reached that rediculous point. "Hangin" with a 911TT is not NEARLY as good as blowing the paint off the doors. As a comparison an RX-8 with $100k in modifications would equal the cost of 911TT and probably beat it in all areas except creature comfort.

 

acosta racing has a 900 hp rx-8 of course it has an engine out of a FD

 

No, it has an engine out of a Cosmo. Its a 20B turbo.

jds

 

But at some point you have to hit diminishing returns. If you were oing to spend 100K for a sleeper 8 that can take down anything on the streets, it might not be a bad idea to get the Porsche your trying to beat in the first place. Besides, if you really want to embarass someone, put the 100K into a sleeper Hyundi or something. A viper owner could probably justify being beat by a 8 "since it is a sports car", but they would probably never admit to anyone that an Elantra took away their pride.

 

Agreed.

I hope I am not crazy enough to spend 100k on an RX-8 - it's simply not that kind of car. As for the Hundai.....I have a minimal level of acceptable aesthetic appeal. Regardless of performance, the Hundai is embarassing.

 

thanks for the clarification bureau13

 

Any updates about the Sunflower RX-8?

 

well, maybe I will drop a bit of info on you guys. I have personally met the guy who is now doing the ecu piggyback tuning for the sunflower mazda rx-8. He will be running 8 pounds of boost in a couple weeks. right now he is just working on puuting a proper pulley system .

 

never mind, I just finished reading the whole thread. I guess it is known that canzoomer is tuning the kit. I was at his house last weekend and It looks good. Just needs "tweaking". Sounds good too.

 

Awesome. I hope this idea doesn't become vaporware.

 

Trust me, it's not. We are reeeeeeeal close.