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Brettus 12-02-2013 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by thewird (Post 4549986)
4 port is going to give you a lot more midrange torque and therefore feel more fun to drive on the street vs 6 port. It will also be more reliable in the long run since you don't have to rev it to the moon to make any power out of it.

thewird

A 6 port is basically a 4 port right up until you open the APV so any mid-range advantage is minimal at best .

thewird 12-02-2013 10:09 PM

If your comparing stock to stock yes but a 4 port allows you to actually port the thing properly.

thewird

Carbon8 12-02-2013 10:38 PM

Their is not such things as "properly" porting on a RENESIS, you are still limited by your exhaust ports which nothing can be done about.

comebackqid 12-02-2013 10:59 PM

@ 28k might as well get a 3 rotor and have money left for wheels and a skank from back page Not to mention it's automatic -_-.

cool to see/know it was done.

thewird 12-03-2013 04:10 AM


Originally Posted by Carbon8 (Post 4550000)
Their is not such things as "properly" porting on a RENESIS, you are still limited by your exhaust ports which nothing can be done about.

Swap out the housings for 13b-gslse housings and make a custom 5 port manifold. Think outside the box, don't just say nothing can be done... At the same time you could also semi-pp that housing with zero porting. Boom lots a horsepower on a stock block while solving the side seal heat problem at the same time lol. Though you would have to resort to full height apex seals due to the extra heat.

thewird

Carbon8 12-03-2013 04:35 AM

Yes, but then it wouldn't be a RENESIS anymore :lol:

We all know how to do it, but the fact remains it was not done on this build.

thewird 12-03-2013 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by Carbon8 (Post 4550058)
Yes, but then it wouldn't be a RENESIS anymore :lol:

We all know how to do it, but the fact remains it was not done on this build.

Ok, then back to my original point. Look how much torque he made with the 4 port and where the powerband is. 5,500 RPM to 8,000 RPM with 350 foot/pounds of torque vs what the turbo 6 ports make. I bet you that late spool has more to do with the automatic transmission and the dyno settings also so it should be coming on even earlier. I bet that car would feel and respond a lot quicker then most of the turbo 6 port builds on here. More power under the curve means its more fun to drive and will win races. Also, less RPM means its more reliable due to less heat, especially side seals.

thewird

Brettus 12-03-2013 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by thewird (Post 4550060)
Ok, then back to my original point. Look how much torque he made with the 4 port and where the powerband is. 5,500 RPM to 8,000 RPM with 350 foot/pounds of torque vs what the turbo 6 ports make.

It made that much torque because they did two things the 6 port guys have not . Wound up the boost and used E85 .

There isn't enough difference in port timing on the (stock) 4 port to make any significant difference . They are practically the same engine up to 6300 rpm , after which the 6 port is superior . If that engine were a 6 port running the same boost and fuel the power curve would be much the same to 6500 , after which it would keep going straight up to around 500.




Plus anyone that has any sense limits the rpm on a turbo 6 port to about what that 4 port is running .......

nuke0907 01-10-2014 08:08 PM

Any updates on this build?

Brettus 02-12-2014 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by nuke0907 (Post 4560244)
Any updates on this build?

All Quiet..............
My guess is that they blew the A/T .

FazdaRX_8 02-12-2014 02:53 PM

LMAO
lets hope not, maybe they ran out of money?

RotaryTherapy 02-12-2014 05:05 PM

Car's driving and all happy from what I gather. Owner still has no issues so far.

Brettus 02-12-2014 09:59 PM


Originally Posted by RotaryTherapy (Post 4569533)
Car's driving and all happy from what I gather. Owner still has no issues so far.

Do you know the owner personally ?

SiNfidelity 08-08-2014 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by Slidin8 (Post 4493692)
It's $14500nz ( $12200au ) for a drive in drive out 400+ REW swap ( inc fresh engine ) at RX7Heaven and that has plenty more power potential

I don't see how this Renny upgrade is worth it when you can REW swap for so much less

We not allowed a rew swap in oz.. Emissions rules.

SiNfidelity 08-08-2014 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by thewird (Post 4550057)
Swap out the housings for 13b-gslse housings and make a custom 5 port manifold. Think outside the box, don't just say nothing can be done... At the same time you could also semi-pp that housing with zero porting. Boom lots a horsepower on a stock block while solving the side seal heat problem at the same time lol. Though you would have to resort to full height apex seals due to the extra heat.

thewird

Not to mention scalloping of the rotors

SiNfidelity 08-08-2014 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by J8635621 (Post 4544181)
Why? Who does that help?

Maybe u shld YouTube PAC performance cars mate, on the track.

SiNfidelity 08-08-2014 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by RotaryTherapy (Post 4511361)
The Pac Performance 'Project 500' RX8 continues to develop as we move forward onto the oil and fuel side of things as well as finishing up the cooling system.


As you can see in this photo, part of the beauty of the Pac Performance ‘Stage4’ RX8 upgrade is that even with the engine covers off, the turbo is pretty much hidden out of site…

http://www.pacperformance.com.au/Art...d8c0a9a0f5.jpg

With the turbo being mounted so low an external oil scavenge pump has been fitted, plumbed into the turbos oil return.

Stealth!! Just what one needs to keep the cops off ya back around here.

FazdaRX_8 08-08-2014 12:32 PM

any updates?

Kev13B 08-09-2014 03:57 AM


Originally Posted by SiNfidelity (Post 4620703)
We not allowed a rew swap in oz.. Emissions rules.


for 2003 models in some states yes you are..

https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-multime...ad-rx8-157379/

comebackqid 09-08-2014 03:32 PM

any video of this car yet?

Williard 09-09-2014 02:23 AM

Keep the thread on topic and watch the name calling gentlemen.

Thank you


Travis

SiNfidelity 09-09-2014 04:34 AM


Originally Posted by Williard (Post 4627294)
Keep the thread on topic and watch the name calling gentlemen.

Thank you


Travis

No worries.


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