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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 11:24 AM
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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Not quite.. That is the same video we have seen before...
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 01:23 PM
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 01:32 PM
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 01:45 PM
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 01:58 PM
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Lost my faith..

If they dynoed the car already, does it take too much time to post it??
If they have the video why posting an old one? I have heard the same story all over again. I am going with greddy...
SSR,
That is not how you built trust among your customers, I am still waiting for your reply about what we talked the other day, but hey, people's time is precious and I made my decision like many others to go with greddy, who is not in the forum, but at least don't promise things and make us wait forever for a piece of dyno sheet.

Furthermore, SSR don't want to rain in your parade, but I was told by a dyno and performance expert here in Canada that you can change variables in the type of dyno used by SSR.You can change things like load in the car, resistance , etc... Why not putting it on a dynojet that everybody trust??

I will post my baseline dyno run tuesday and my post greddy run probably at the end of the month, same dyno, same car.

PS. When I called SSR in June 04 they told me the kit was going to deliver close to 400 WHP. After that they cut back to 350 WHP , now they claim 300 whp and they can't even prove it.. What makes you think you can get 60 WHP more than the Greddy kit with the same level of boost? Simply either not possible or prove it to your people. I don't believe it, that is why many people are buying the greddy kit, and same thing with the comparison to greddy that u gave in another thread, you list every single bolt and rubber that u get in the kit, almost including the box and label,just to make it look worth the 8K while greddy list what you are really getting. Again not fair, who're u trying to fool?

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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 02:15 PM
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Ghey.

If you guys are so hype about watching a video of a turbo RX-8 on a dyno, you can watch mine.:

http://www.mazdamaniac.com/video/dyno.mpg

At least it isn't just sitting there, revving like a 16 year old kid in his Corolla.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 02:24 PM
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Ghey.

If you guys are so hype about watching a video of a turbo RX-8 on a dyno, you can watch mine.:

http://www.mazdamaniac.com/video/dyno.mpg

At least it isn't just sitting there, revving like a 16 year old kid in his Corolla.
Nice emoticon
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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http://www.speedforceracing.com/videos/rx8turbo.AVI

Try that one guys.

Its from the SFR RX-8 webpage beneath the prices. http://www.speedforceracing.com/prod...x8turbokit.php

I think he just provided the wrong link. Although you cant see any numbers on the video, just the car being dynoed.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 02:31 PM
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Whoops, didn't realize i posted the old link :D sorry about that.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 02:34 PM
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Equally ghey.

Bad video, bad audio. The camera man was obviously scared to get too close to the car while it was loading up. I wonder why?

Mine took half as long to get to redline, too!
I'm just being a trouble maker and rabble rouser
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Lschiavo
If they dynoed the car already, does it take too much time to post it??
If they have the video why posting an old one? I have heard the same story all over again. I am going with greddy...
SSR,
That is not how you built trust among your customers, I am still waiting for your reply about what we talked the other day, but hey, people's time is precious and I made my decision like many others to go with greddy, who is not in the forum, but at least don't promise things and make us wait forever for a piece of dyno sheet.

Furthermore, SSR don't want to rain in your parade, but I was told by a dyno and performance expert here in Canada that you can change variables in the type of dyno used by SSR.You can change things like load in the car, resistance , etc... Why not putting it on a dynojet that everybody trust??

I will post my baseline dyno run tuesday and my post greddy run probably at the end of the month, same dyno, same car.

PS. When I called SSR in June 04 they told me the kit was going to deliver close to 400 WHP. After that they cut back to 350 WHP , now they claim 300 whp and they can't even prove it.. What makes you think you can get 60 WHP more than the Greddy kit with the same level of boost? Simply either not possible or prove it to your people. I don't believe it, that is why many people are buying the greddy kit, and same thing with the comparison to greddy that u gave in another thread, you list every single bolt and rubber that u get in the kit, almost including the box and label,just to make it look worth the 8K while greddy list what you are really getting. Again not fair, who're u trying to fool?

The kit can deliver OVER 400WHP, we never said anything about it producing 400WHP in standard form or 350WHP for that matter. We've stated that the base kit will produce 300~WHP and it's pretty close in standard form.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Equally ghey.

Bad video, bad audio. The camera man was obviously scared to get too close to the car while it was loading up. I wonder why?

Mine took half as long to get to redline, too!
I'm just being a trouble maker and rabble rouser
Well since we aren't film makers we can't produce dreamworks picture quality videos. All this was, was just a clip to prove it was dynoing, also if you get to close to a car while it's on the dyno it tends to distort the overrall sound quality. Let me call up warner bros and have them make a motion picture for us (if that will make you happy).

This isn't the only video we are going to be posting, we'll get some more footage of it.

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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 02:40 PM
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Well since we aren't film makers we can't produce dreamworks picture quality videos. All this was, was just a clip to prove it was dynoing. Also if you get to close to a car while it's on the dyno it tends to distort the overrall sound. Let me call up warner bros and have them make a motion picture for us.
Just busting your chops.
A video of a dyno run is worthless in and of itself. The point of shooting a dyno run is to get people excited about the prospects of more power.
A clearer pic, some loud engine noises (having the BOV open is a plus) and lots of camera motion hooks people.

You need a marketing department.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SSR Engineering
Well since we aren't film makers we can't produce dreamworks picture quality videos. All this was, was just a clip to prove it was dynoing. Also if you get to close to a car while it's on the dyno it tends to distort the overrall sound. Let me call up warner bros and have them make a motion picture for us.
If a car has 300 WHP it should get to redline way faster than the stock one! Who are you gonna call for this question, maybe someone who knows how to make turbo kits? What about greddy, HKS or some others? They could help you... :D

If i were the camera guy I would not be in front of it, imagine a rotor flying off the engine like a boomerang. With 300 WHP as they claim, it will happen at any time.

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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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Just busting your chops.
A video of a dyno run is worthless in and of itself. The point of shooting a dyno run is to get people excited about the prospects of more power.
A clearer pic, some loud engine noises (having the BOV open is a plus) and lots of camera motion hooks people.

You need a marketing department.
The BOV on this one isn't atmospheric since the original design was a draw-thru maf so we had a recirc valve instead. However on the kits we will be providing a Tial 50mm BOV, since we changed to a blow-thru style.

We're getting more pictures, videos and dynos today.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Lschiavo
If a car has 300 WHP it should get to redline way faster than the stock one!
Well, to be fair, they may have been in a higher gear than me on that pull.
I was in 4th.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Lschiavo
Furthermore, SSR don't want to rain in your parade, but I was told by a dyno and performance expert here in Canada that you can change variables in the type of dyno used by SSR.You can change things like load in the car, resistance , etc... Why not putting it on a dynojet that everybody trust??
You can change correction factors on most if not all dynos (including dynojet), thats why they provide either actual numbers or SAE Corrected, also dynojets are more for showing numbers not for tuning.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 02:51 PM
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Well, to be fair, they may have been in a higher gear than me on that pull.
I was in 4th.
The video was shot with a digital camera that is capable of 30 second video clips which is why the quality isn't the greatest.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 02:53 PM
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PS. When I called SSR in June 04 they told me the kit was going to deliver close to 400 WHP. After that they cut back to 350 WHP , now they claim 300 whp and they can't even prove it.. What makes you think you can get 60 WHP more than the Greddy kit with the same level of boost? Simply either not possible or prove it to your people. I don't believe it, that is why many people are buying the greddy kit, and same thing with the comparison to greddy that u gave in another thread, you list every single bolt and rubber that u get in the kit, almost including the box and label,just to make it look worth the 8K while greddy list what you are really getting. Again not fair, who're u trying to fool?
It's not the amount of boost that makes the power its the rate of flow at a certain PSI. If the amount of boost made the same power as all turbos then there would be one aftermarket turbo, not thousands.

Aren't the dyno's that we provided pretty solid evidence that we made the power?

Turbo systems are very complex and have tons of options, the reason you pay more for some are because of materials used, components, craftsmanship, etc. If you feel that it is to expensive for you and want to spend less money by all means go for the greddy kit, if you want top-notch quality, more performance, better warranty, and more potential then our kit is probably for you.

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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 02:53 PM
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You can change correction factors on most if not all dynos (including dynojet), thats why they provide either actual numbers or SAE Corrected, also dynojets are more for showing numbers not for tuning.
Understand what u are saying, then let me propose you something. When doing the video go to the computer and show the graph, where it shows the 292 WPH that u are claiming.
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Come on guys, we're getting a bit rude with SSR here. I understand we're frustated by time frames given (and not met), dyno sheet promises (not kept), but lets stay civil.

If I was SSR I wouldnt even come back to this forum the way he's been treated.

SSR, I appreciate you coming on the forum...but you should keep to the timeframes etc. that you set.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Lschiavo
Understand what u are saying, then let me propose you something. When doing the video go to the computer and show the graph, where it shows the 292 WPH that u are claiming.
I agree, thats what I was expecting from a "dyno video".
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 02:59 PM
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[QUOTE=Lschiavo]If they dynoed the car already, does it take too much time to post it??
If they have the video why posting an old one? I have heard the same story all over again. I am going with greddy...
SSR,
That is not how you built trust among your customers, I am still waiting for your reply about what we talked the other day, but hey, people's time is precious and I made my decision like many others to go with greddy, who is not in the forum, but at least don't promise things and make us wait forever for a piece of dyno sheet.

Furthermore, SSR don't want to rain in your parade, but I was told by a dyno and performance expert here in Canada that you can change variables in the type of dyno used by SSR.You can change things like load in the car, resistance , etc... Why not putting it on a dynojet that everybody trust??


Because you cant do load based tuning on a Dynojet.Why dont you call the Dyno Shop in Santee and ask them about the results.They are an unbiased shop that has nothing to gain whether our kit makes power or not.



I will post my baseline dyno run tuesday and my post greddy run probably at the end of the month, same dyno, same car.

PS. When I called SSR in June 04 they told me the kit was going to deliver close to 400 WHP. After that they cut back to 350 WHP , now they claim 300 whp and they can't even prove it.. What makes you think you can get 60 WHP more than the Greddy kit with the same level of boost? Simply either not possible or prove it to your people.


It is simple.We are using a bigger turbo.We are using a full T4 turbo and they are using a t3-t4.



I don't believe it, that is why many people are buying the greddy kit, and same thing with the comparison to greddy that u gave in another thread, you list every single bolt and rubber that u get in the kit, almost including the box and label,just to make it look worth the 8K while greddy list what you are really getting. Again not fair, who're u trying to fool?


I dont know where you are coming up with all this stuff.Go buy the greddy kit and when an RX-8 turbo blasts by you, you will know that is has an SFR/SSR kit on it!Take care.
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