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SpeedForceRacing 02-21-2006 07:56 PM

SpeedForceRacing-326WHP with dyno chart
 
We just finished our Black project car and we managed to get 326 at the wheels on a Dyno Dynamics.And 240 ft/lbs of torque to boot.Seehow flat the torque curve is :ylsuper: Here is the dyno chart.http://www.speedforceracing.com/imag...it/rx8_1_6.jpg

nycgps 02-21-2006 07:59 PM

WOW, IT SEEMS TO BE ...... PRetty IMPRESSIVE !

but , may I ask what kind of equipment u guys have ?

NgoRX8 02-21-2006 08:00 PM

looking good.

Fanman 02-21-2006 08:02 PM

Nice. Also isn't the dyno dynamics usually register even lower hp then even Mustang dynoes.

smrx8 02-21-2006 08:04 PM

Just visited your homepage 7500 for the kit :Eyecrazy:

SpeedForceRacing 02-21-2006 08:12 PM

The car is equipped with the SFR turbo system(non ball-bearing).SFR testpipe and a Borla 3" cat-back. Thats it. Nothing else. Running at 9 psi of boost.

Nemesis8 02-21-2006 08:16 PM

Torque Monster for sure

nycgps 02-21-2006 08:20 PM

but as I can see in the picture, gotta relocate some of the stuff (battery, for example)

Hmm .... pretty costly, but ahh if it adds like more than 100 hp/tq .... I guess .. hmmm

SpeedForceRacing 02-21-2006 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by nycgps
but as I can see in the picture, gotta relocate some of the stuff (battery, for example)

Hmm .... pretty costly, but ahh if it adds like more than 100 hp/tq .... I guess .. hmmm

The battery relocation kit comes with the system.We make a super nice aluminum battery box that mounts in the trunk and then we supply you with new ground and power cables.The test car dynoed at 175hp and 125 ft/lbs at the wheels so we added 151 horsepower and 115 ft/lbs of torque at the wheels.We also have an even bigger intercooler and turbo option that we havent tested as of yet :Eyecrazy:

OfficerFarva 02-21-2006 08:22 PM

Nice numbers man. I bet it's a quick SOB :).

XeRo 02-21-2006 08:25 PM

headsnapper for sure...nice...just for kicks...why a non-ball bearing..i'm guessing a T04b?..those like lower oil pressures and less oiling...that the main reason?...or just it's overall scalability? I mean don't get me wrong..i think it's great i'm just wondering your reasons behind putting one in...

rkostolni 02-21-2006 10:05 PM

$7500 seems like a lot to put out all at once, and no way I could have saved up enough to drop that kind of dough, but really I think its fairly reasonable. Assuming they're using a standalone EMS. If they're still using the emanage, then it is a bit expensive.

Over time I've spent over that on mods for my 8 and still don't have that kinda hp. If you look at turbo kits for other cars its really an average price for a good kit. The price of the Greddy turbo has just spoiled us. But I don't think the Greddy kit is as good quality as this kit, and definitely won't make this kinda power. Its my experience that if you want that kind of power, you're going to have to spend that kind of money (except maybe if you go the NOS route). Unless you own a Mustang and can get 20hp from a set of headers. But it all depends on what you want.

My only complaint is that its not a ball bearing turbo.

SFR could we get some more details about the turbo your using? What kind is it and what's the trim? Also, what kind of engine management are you using?

AlexCisneros 02-21-2006 10:25 PM

doesn't the car rev to 9k+ rpm? You seem to be missing ~1150 RPM

Detonation or just lifted early?

EDIT: Just realized this was a :repost: with a picture and that the question was answered already.

SpeedForceRacing 02-21-2006 11:05 PM


Originally Posted by rkostolni
SFR could we get some more details about the turbo your using? What kind is it and what's the trim? Also, what kind of engine management are you using?



It is a Turbonetics turbo. TO4E with a 57 trim. The hotside specs is our little secret :yesnod: The engine management is from Injection Perfection and it is basically a TSI unit.The same thing Ric Shaw uses.It controls timing,fuel,boost,it can control NOS,etc....It controls the injectors and ignition timing directly without using the Mass-air sensor to do your fueling corrections.It has a 22 psi MAP sensor in it for accurate pressure measurements.Very nice system and it is as close to stand alone as you can get without having to build a harness,rewire the car,etc.......

Because it does so much , it costs alot which is why the price ofthe turbo kit is up there.But hey if you want to run your own EMS system and figure out your fueling requirements, then you can save alot of money and buy a tuner kit.
:shocking:

SensaiDG 02-22-2006 04:38 PM

What is the price for the tuner kit?

Nemesis8 02-22-2006 05:04 PM

It's on the website

rx8wannahave 02-22-2006 05:45 PM

Dang nice gains. Do you planning to take that 8 to a track...it wold be cool for the customer to not only see a dyno but the real world application on a track. Just...so we could hear and see what those numbers could do.

By the way, anyone know what type of whp Adrian-1 is hitting? He just got a 13.1 in the 1/4 mile and we could use his greddy turbo to estimate/guestimate what the SFR Turbo could do.

BigOLundh 02-22-2006 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by rx8wannahave
we could use his greddy turbo to estimate/guestimate what the SFR Turbo could do.

There are so many different variables involved... i would think its just better to wait till an SFR turbo kit owner shows 1/4 mile times.

OR... just for kicks, you could use this
http://www.rx7.com/accel_calculator.html

-hS

rx8wannahave 02-22-2006 08:02 PM

Cool...that looks pretty fun, now is that whp or flywheel?

...and what do they mean shifts vs gear?

Like...how many shifts to 60mph and what gear....I don't understand that part??

Imidazole 02-22-2006 08:06 PM

Yeah, why not rev it all the way up?

Moostafa29 02-22-2006 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by BigOLundh
There are so many different variables involved... i would think its just better to wait till an SFR turbo kit owner shows 1/4 mile times.

OR... just for kicks, you could use this
http://www.rx7.com/accel_calculator.html

-hS

Just to piggy back on this, with such a big difference in power, I'm sure the car would be at least from 0.4-0.7 sec faster, but traction would be the biggest problem. Traction for a tuned GReddy turbo'd car is bad enough, I can't imagine what it would be like with this sucker.

rkostolni 02-22-2006 09:56 PM

Ya, but there's things that can be done to help with that. Stickier tires would be the biggest. Vivid also makes some traction bars, but I don't know how well they work.

EyeBall Fixer...(o)(x) 02-22-2006 10:50 PM

Yes, I am a novice in rotary engine technology...
I don't understand why the HP/Torque peaks at 7200 and then peters out...
So really, from 7200 to 9500 is pretty much useless.... is this correct?
They've turned our rotary into "acting like" a piston engine,
except there's no appreciable grunt off the line...

I don't get it (stupid is as stupid does)?!

MadDog 02-22-2006 11:30 PM

"peters out"???

WTF. Its still putting down 320HP when the dyno chart ends. I wish I "petered out" above 300whp.

mike1324a 02-23-2006 12:31 AM

haha, Dont we all!


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