It must have taken a bit of work to get the factory ECU to recognize and deal with boost since the stock car is NA.

If you get all the goodies from the ECU, like adjusting the fuel trim to keep the tune where it should be, then $1,200 is a bargain!

A consumable resource is still a product. Your buying it refined are you not? Thus it is a product. That is something that just happened to come to mind. Pettit does not mfg all the parts to his end product, he engineered it and buys from other vendors. Costs rise, the cost of insurance, transportation, materials and labor. I am sure that you would not deny an entrepreneur his fair profit.

A pretty fair price for what you're getting, I wish I had the money together for this!!!

They are developing a loader for it so it won't be a "send it to them" item in the near future.

So, this will also be the first FI solution with no CELs too right?

For an MT car using a Pettit s/c only, yes no CEL but this is not the first for no CELs. People using the Ultimate silver do not get a CEL and one or two others say they do not.

by the way, the price of steel has been sky rocketing over the last few years....as have nearly all resources...welcome to the world of industrialised china and india!

By the way, great news on ther reflash front..I'm sure a lot of people have been waiting for that....

Oil is consumable resource steel is a reusable resource.

They are not even close to the same thing.

If he is having this manufactured on a per need basis, I can't tell you how monumentally stupid that is. He will never get ahead of inflation and other cost contributing factors. That is a swap meet business practice.

He should have signed a contract with his vendors with a guaranteed per unit price up to a certain unit amount. With a buy out clause if it is not met.

The price of a packaged product like this should never raise. That is like buying your 04 RX8 in 2004 for 30k then seeing the same 04 RX8 5 years later for 36k.
You are buying a piece of technology not a scarce commodity.

What is the name of your business - If you never raise prices or have them raised to you then I need to be buying from you instead of my suppliers. In fact then with your logic we should still be paying the same price for any tangible product from the day of it's release. I may not be understanding your logic but you are not talking real world. Your example was no better than mine. The only items that come to mind that have dropped in price were the computers we are using but with the technology that is now required to make them useful the price has risen. I can see that this argument could get out of hand so I will not bother to make further comment and will just concede.

can't we all just drool over the price per horsepower and reliability , and dont forget the low boost pressure....

For those who dont understand why the kit's cost went up then the trickle down effect has never crossed your eyes and ears. Everything is going up right now from Gas (duh!) all the way down to that bottle of soda you just bought. It sucks sure but to my knowledge Pettit is ordering the blowers in batches and hence are forced to pay more if the manufacturer's cost of production goes up. I dunno just basic business to me atleast.

Now for the Flash sadly we drive a nitch car not a Civic so they have to recoup their R&D cost quick and hence this is gonna cost us alot.

I just wish they could offer it less and still make a profit so I could buy it hehe..


Oh question what would happen if say a dealer being the stupid morons they are decide to reflash a owners car to a "new flash". Would the owner have to pay Pettit again to have their car flashed? And by owner I mean the dealer since the owner should seriously bitch out the dealer till they pay up for their ignorance.

oh God.....im jumping back on the S/C fan wagon...:eyetwitch

Wait long enough and the Cobb flash will be out for FI equipped cars (about another year). Unfortunately the AT people have to wait a little longer for the Pettit flash and then only for the s/c. I personally know of three other (besides Cobb & Pettit) sources of a flash that are close to releasing. In fact Cobb will be releasing their n/a flash for mt 8s shortly. For some reason there are more items being released (scheduled to be released) within the next three months than any other time.

Phil,

Any chance of those three sources releasing a flash for NA ATs?

You bet there will be flashes for the n/a ats. I would not expect too much improvement to the power - there just aint't much to be gained by tuning. I'm not very technical with tuning so others will have to explain what you will gain. Cobb may be first due to the lack of big power improvements. Others are putting it off in favor of doing FI flashs for the a/t - they feel that there is the need and the wave of the future with the 8

just to clarify on the x and the flash...

the flash will definitely be the way to go regardless of price...the drivability of the flash compared to the x is quite superb...
also, availability of the x was an issue and im not sure if thats been resolved yet...
also, theres no CEL with the flash as with the x and no matter how much time you spend tuning the car with the x...the flash will still out run the x..

im running the x with the SC right now...and im sittin 1200mi from WPB...droolin over this flash....:banghead:

waiting patiently to swap this shyte out....if i have to ship my car i will but hopefully shipping the PCM will be adequate...

Oh boy - cant wait for that . Don't fancy having my 8 off the road for 2-3 weeks getting the flash done

Any idea what "near future" means ?

What's up with the Pettit flash for the Auto RX-8's? Out yet or due date?

Not yet, but it will only be for the Pettit s/c at. I was told that I would have it before Feburary. I know of no plans to release it for any thing else except for pettit s/c 8s. Of course plans change.

there is even a difference between the 2004-6 cars and the 2007 MT
oscd

You are correct - I forgot to say the first flash will be for the 4 port s/c 8. Being selfish by nature, I did not think to ask of the 6 port release date.

Ok what does the "oscd" stand for? Old "supercharged" Dragger?

bingo.
by the way have you heard that they just upgrade the flash? The stage 2 one? 310 to the wheel? is that right?
oscd

I saw that, I hope it carries over to the a/t