Petit flash is out !
 

It is on the market at last . Just got this by email.






Holiday Specials for RX8 Compressor Kits On sale until January 2008


Stage II 275WHP & 185 lb/ft $5794 w/flash



Stage II CS 300 WHP &195lb/ft $6144 w/flash



This is a limited quantity offer, all orders require a $500 deposit and balance paid by shipping or completion date, For Shipping charges email Turner@pettitracing.com provide shipping info and zip. Installation of the kit is $995 plus the FL Sales tax of 6.5% and can be scheduled between November 2007 and march 2008, However; all orders must be paid in full prior to December 31, 2007.



Both Holiday offers include ecu re-flash and are available for 04-07 manual trans model only.



Our latest release Stage II “CS” include re-flashing the ECU and the addition of a hi flow cat.

The Stage II CS Kit can produce 300 whp and 195 lb/ft torque @ 5-7psi. Most of the added hp is a result of re-flashing the factory ECU. Other benefits include: Superb drivability, and clean smooth rock solid acceleration through the entire RPM range. Also with the stock ECU and OBD II diagnostics system fully functional there is no ck engine light unless something is wrong. Most OBDII compatible scan tools can perform full system scans and clear codes and the Mazda dealer can still perform full service with the kit installed as well. Our latest testing on 5 different RX8’s has consistently yielded 278 - 300 whp through the stock exhaust with the latter using a hi flow cat. We will continue testing other combinations; like the stock cat with performance cat back system etc, etc.



Customers involved in racing and/or track events may consider using a water/methanol injection system to help keep charge temps under control in extreme conditions. We are now testing W/M injection setups that become active when charge temps reach a set point; we hope to have these kits available soon. With the re-flash setup there is no method yet to trim fuel and /or retard timing under extreme conditions, this results in a slightly rich mixture as charge temps increase, so far this is no problem and may actually be of benefit, also the factory knock sensor seems to be doing its job, so far there are no instances of detonation.



A complete install at Pettit takes 2 days with 1 day for road testing etc. For DYI the ECU has to be sent to us for the reflash, turnaround in most cases is 2 days. More info available at www.pettitracing.com



Stage II Kit
1. Compressor Kit 5495

2. Management ECU flash tuning 1199

Total 6694

Holiday discount SAVE $900 Sale Total $5794

Stage II CS Kit

1.Compressor Kit 5495

2. Management ECU flash tuning 1199

3. Hi flow Cat 450

Total 7144

Holiday discount SAVE $1000 Sale Total $6144



Complete Installation at our shop is $995 plus tax. Call now to schedule 561-844-2258!



Prices and specifications subject to change with out notice

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TKT, Trak Pro, PROTEK, R-Tec and Pettit Racing are Trademarks of Excellent Performance Inc. Palm Beach, FL.

Ya know what sucks! You're in freakin NZ and you know about it before I do and I'm about 90 miles away! :lol:
Now it's going to be real hard to resist! :banghead:

Yep, but it's currently for MTs only. ATs will have to wait a little longer.

Boo-Hoo for you Phil! :lol2:
Don't think you'll have to wait long as you already know.

I know nothing:dunno: My life must be an open book-can't get any sympathy:)

does anyone know what the reflash changes??

heh - the internet rulz

Sweet.

Let's see what they put to the wheels on California 91 octane, though :banghead:

Now I don't speak for Pettit, but unless something has changed in the last couple of weeks, the flash is only for s/c MT engines. He was concentrating on vehicles with his FI kits first.

$1200 for a flash and you have to send it to them to do it (ie no handheld device).... huh??

Sure would be nice if this carried over to the Pettit threads. That way Cam could see our comments. He get busy and tends to look mainly at his threads in the Pettit Forum.

Considering they are the only game in town to offer this with a FI option, I guess they can create the market...but when the $700 Accessport and ~$300 street tuner arrive they'll need to adjust down a little, I think.

Also interesting that the difference in the cat can create an extra 25whp...they must have to be in preserve-the-cat-mode just like Mazda on the OEM unit...I recall a while back Pettit commenting they were having issues with the OEM cat...

Logically it would seem to be fuel and timing according to their superchargers requirements. In other words don't try to get this reflash for a turbo system. It is only for the intended use.

That doesn't surprise me. If the cat takes away about 6-7 hp or so on a naturally aspirated engine, it would seem to hold true that an engine that has more exhaust gasses would be further restricted through the same cat. It would definitely heat the cat up more.

Yea dude, for that price Id rather save a bit more and get the Int-x and have full tunability.

That price seems steep for a reflash.

You don't need full tunabilty. If you are using their supercharger kit, you use their flash and you are done. You don't need fully tunability now. Yes you can design a flash that works in all cars. The car already comes with one. I agree that the price is overly steep though.

i wouldn't go that far as the flash and OEM ECU is a much better engine management then the int-x will ever be...

RG: All cars meaning all MTs and another for ATs?

My guess (and my hope for my sake) is that the price of the flash and the SC will come down over time. Seems that in most industries you have to pay to be an early adopter. They gotta try to recoup their development costs, and as time goes on more competition comes out, so they have to adjust.

Plus keep in mind that software development costs A LOT. People seem to think that software should be cheap because you can't physically hold it. While I agree that the initial cost for this seems high, I'm sure it wasn't cheap for them to develop. I used to develop software for a living, so I know something about what I speak in this case :)

I would not hold my breath on the cost of the s/c coming down any too soon as I happen to know what his costs are and based upon those costs the initial sell price did not do the trick for an acceptable recovery of investment. With the price escalation it is now more in line.

Now the flash is another story - my guess is that the pie here is being split so short term pricing may be reduced with competition.

300 WHP? Very tempting

I would like to see it in the $5k range out the door though.

If you'd have purchased it 30 days ago that's what you would have paid. Prices do go up, look at gas. With me it's not the cost of the s/c but all the other stuff that you want after you get it.

ione would assume that aquiring the capacity to flash the pcm via opening it and attaching a com port and then downloading the appropriate maps cost them a certain large amount of dollars. i have a general idea of what it cost RB. so X amount / by the number of kits they expect to be able to sell +% of profit = $1200

its not unreasonable when you think about it in those terms. is too much for what you get? $6000 for an essentially plug and play 300 hp supercharger kit for a small market car? to me it doesnt seem so but then i dont have the money for it anyway

http://www.kennebell.net/pricelist/pricelist.htm

Agreed, see link above. These are twin screw, Autorotor kits, and a reflahsed, air to water intercooled, twin screw SC right in the ballpark with Petitt pricing...so for 8psi/300whp, I think this is pretty good.

LOL, are you comparing a product to a consumeable resource???

All they have to-do is overcome the price of RND. It is not like the price of steel is sky rocketing.

It must have taken a bit of work to get the factory ECU to recognize and deal with boost since the stock car is NA.

If you get all the goodies from the ECU, like adjusting the fuel trim to keep the tune where it should be, then $1,200 is a bargain!

A consumable resource is still a product. Your buying it refined are you not? Thus it is a product. That is something that just happened to come to mind. Pettit does not mfg all the parts to his end product, he engineered it and buys from other vendors. Costs rise, the cost of insurance, transportation, materials and labor. I am sure that you would not deny an entrepreneur his fair profit.

A pretty fair price for what you're getting, I wish I had the money together for this!!!

They are developing a loader for it so it won't be a "send it to them" item in the near future.

So, this will also be the first FI solution with no CELs too right?

For an MT car using a Pettit s/c only, yes no CEL but this is not the first for no CELs. People using the Ultimate silver do not get a CEL and one or two others say they do not.

by the way, the price of steel has been sky rocketing over the last few years....as have nearly all resources...welcome to the world of industrialised china and india!

By the way, great news on ther reflash front..I'm sure a lot of people have been waiting for that....

Oil is consumable resource steel is a reusable resource.

They are not even close to the same thing.

If he is having this manufactured on a per need basis, I can't tell you how monumentally stupid that is. He will never get ahead of inflation and other cost contributing factors. That is a swap meet business practice.

He should have signed a contract with his vendors with a guaranteed per unit price up to a certain unit amount. With a buy out clause if it is not met.

The price of a packaged product like this should never raise. That is like buying your 04 RX8 in 2004 for 30k then seeing the same 04 RX8 5 years later for 36k.
You are buying a piece of technology not a scarce commodity.

What is the name of your business - If you never raise prices or have them raised to you then I need to be buying from you instead of my suppliers. In fact then with your logic we should still be paying the same price for any tangible product from the day of it's release. I may not be understanding your logic but you are not talking real world. Your example was no better than mine. The only items that come to mind that have dropped in price were the computers we are using but with the technology that is now required to make them useful the price has risen. I can see that this argument could get out of hand so I will not bother to make further comment and will just concede.

can't we all just drool over the price per horsepower and reliability , and dont forget the low boost pressure....

For those who dont understand why the kit's cost went up then the trickle down effect has never crossed your eyes and ears. Everything is going up right now from Gas (duh!) all the way down to that bottle of soda you just bought. It sucks sure but to my knowledge Pettit is ordering the blowers in batches and hence are forced to pay more if the manufacturer's cost of production goes up. I dunno just basic business to me atleast.

Now for the Flash sadly we drive a nitch car not a Civic so they have to recoup their R&D cost quick and hence this is gonna cost us alot.

I just wish they could offer it less and still make a profit so I could buy it hehe..


Oh question what would happen if say a dealer being the stupid morons they are decide to reflash a owners car to a "new flash". Would the owner have to pay Pettit again to have their car flashed? And by owner I mean the dealer since the owner should seriously bitch out the dealer till they pay up for their ignorance.

oh God.....im jumping back on the S/C fan wagon...:eyetwitch

Wait long enough and the Cobb flash will be out for FI equipped cars (about another year). Unfortunately the AT people have to wait a little longer for the Pettit flash and then only for the s/c. I personally know of three other (besides Cobb & Pettit) sources of a flash that are close to releasing. In fact Cobb will be releasing their n/a flash for mt 8s shortly. For some reason there are more items being released (scheduled to be released) within the next three months than any other time.

Phil,

Any chance of those three sources releasing a flash for NA ATs?

You bet there will be flashes for the n/a ats. I would not expect too much improvement to the power - there just aint't much to be gained by tuning. I'm not very technical with tuning so others will have to explain what you will gain. Cobb may be first due to the lack of big power improvements. Others are putting it off in favor of doing FI flashs for the a/t - they feel that there is the need and the wave of the future with the 8

just to clarify on the x and the flash...

the flash will definitely be the way to go regardless of price...the drivability of the flash compared to the x is quite superb...
also, availability of the x was an issue and im not sure if thats been resolved yet...
also, theres no CEL with the flash as with the x and no matter how much time you spend tuning the car with the x...the flash will still out run the x..

im running the x with the SC right now...and im sittin 1200mi from WPB...droolin over this flash....:banghead:

waiting patiently to swap this shyte out....if i have to ship my car i will but hopefully shipping the PCM will be adequate...

Oh boy - cant wait for that . Don't fancy having my 8 off the road for 2-3 weeks getting the flash done

Any idea what "near future" means ?

What's up with the Pettit flash for the Auto RX-8's? Out yet or due date?

Not yet, but it will only be for the Pettit s/c at. I was told that I would have it before Feburary. I know of no plans to release it for any thing else except for pettit s/c 8s. Of course plans change.

there is even a difference between the 2004-6 cars and the 2007 MT
oscd

You are correct - I forgot to say the first flash will be for the 4 port s/c 8. Being selfish by nature, I did not think to ask of the 6 port release date.

Ok what does the "oscd" stand for? Old "supercharged" Dragger?

bingo.
by the way have you heard that they just upgrade the flash? The stage 2 one? 310 to the wheel? is that right?
oscd

I saw that, I hope it carries over to the a/t