Nitrous! 65-75 shot?
09-07-2009, 05:18 PM
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Nitrous! 65-75 shot?
Hey guys. I've been using the zex 55 shot for almost a year now and was wondering if there have been any recent break throughs in upping the jets!?? I only see one person on here running a 75 shot after 4 engines and 3 mani's... sooo how did he do it? I would really like to get the full potential out of this kit! Any feedback will be greatly appreciated. Thanks
09-07-2009, 05:56 PM
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You can install a GReddy Ultimate, Interceptor-X, or some other piggyback and get to the next level if you like. The engine will certainly handle it. The only reason I have yet to do it, myself, is because I wish to develop a simple "plug-and-play" device that will help us to all get to as high as a 125-150 shot without having to buy an entire EMS just to control the ignition curve while the shot is being used.
Easy also has a few reservations about hitting a certain point where the intake manifold will not allow the fuel/nitrous mixture to distribute properly but I am not as concerned about it as he is. I have had a dual-nozzle/direct-port set up on my engine at one time, though.
Easy also has a few reservations about hitting a certain point where the intake manifold will not allow the fuel/nitrous mixture to distribute properly but I am not as concerned about it as he is. I have had a dual-nozzle/direct-port set up on my engine at one time, though.
09-07-2009, 06:24 PM
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How are you coming along on this "plug-and-play" device? Would the Int-X let me use higher jettings or just properly tune it? Because my 8 has been tuned by pettit but not for Nitrous. I told them I had Nitrous but they said they would only tune for regular driving conditions, improving mpg and some hp gains as well as better throttle response
09-07-2009, 06:44 PM
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We had a guy who wanted to work with us but that seemed to fade away. We now have another guy who is confident on the concept being viable and his ability to design the circuits we need but it is a matter of having the time/money to focus on it. BHR hasn't the start-up capital to have more than 1-2 projects in development although our growth is helping to speed things up and finish each new product more quickly.
I don't blame Pettit for only tuning for conditions with which they are familiar, lotta liabilities otherwise and they are far more familiar with F/I than nitrous.
I don't blame Pettit for only tuning for conditions with which they are familiar, lotta liabilities otherwise and they are far more familiar with F/I than nitrous.
09-07-2009, 07:00 PM
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I do have some ideas that are different from Ray at this time. And my next thing is to go with a 100 shot. Let me finish the other products that are on the table and then I will get this rolling along a little faster. I hope. And the engine loss's not related to Nitrous. But the Manifolds are.
09-08-2009, 06:18 PM
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I'm sure the only reason your spacer hasn't sold out is because so many of use have already drilled our intakes, as I have, and don't know how to plug it up.
Anyway, I do understand your dilemma. Thanks for taking the time to fill me in.
09-08-2009, 06:23 PM
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I do have some ideas that are different from Ray at this time. And my next thing is to go with a 100 shot. Let me finish the other products that are on the table and then I will get this rolling along a little faster. I hope. And the engine loss's not related to Nitrous. But the Manifolds are.
09-10-2009, 12:21 AM
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Easy, is your 75 shot setup a sure thing or is it still being tested for faults? If it's a done deal are you going public with it? It will satisfy my urges for speed until BHR comes out with this device.
My buddy just turbo'ed his 8 yesterday and I must say... it is night and day. I haven't raced him yet but will be hard pressed to even see 2 lengths behind him. It's the greddy with no tunning. I am very jealous at the moment
My buddy just turbo'ed his 8 yesterday and I must say... it is night and day. I haven't raced him yet but will be hard pressed to even see 2 lengths behind him. It's the greddy with no tunning. I am very jealous at the moment
09-10-2009, 01:07 AM
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If it was what we discussed the other day, it isn't that our ideas differ (since I had the same idea long before I moved to AZ), it is that after everything was considered it wasn't a viable idea. Remember, I had a dual-nozzle, direct-port, set up for a long time and the current BHR Spacer performs in the same fashion. The issue we disagree on is if puddling in the intake is a concern. You assume it is and I haven't seen the proof. You also assume the rear rotor gets more of the nitrous/fuel charge while we haven't the tangible data to prove the point. BHR doesn't have the capital right now to spend investing in a hunch.
I am familiar with your manifold set up Ray.
These are things related to the 4 port UIM. Not the 6 port.
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09-10-2009, 01:10 AM
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Easy, is your 75 shot setup a sure thing or is it still being tested for faults? If it's a done deal are you going public with it? It will satisfy my urges for speed until BHR comes out with this device.
My buddy just turbo'ed his 8 yesterday and I must say... it is night and day. I haven't raced him yet but will be hard pressed to even see 2 lengths behind him. It's the greddy with no tunning. I am very jealous at the moment
My buddy just turbo'ed his 8 yesterday and I must say... it is night and day. I haven't raced him yet but will be hard pressed to even see 2 lengths behind him. It's the greddy with no tunning. I am very jealous at the moment
If you want to try it on your own,, it's up to you.
09-10-2009, 09:37 AM
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Ray, ya know this is my second RX8 and I had my fun with nitrous on my first..
But if you make that BHR controller a reality, I will do nitrous all over again.
That said, I personally had no issues with the 65-hp jets on my previous nitrous setup (check sig). I did however have an incident while I was using it.. but I have since surmissed that was a hardware problem with the nitrous FMU and not the 65-hp jettings.
But if you make that BHR controller a reality, I will do nitrous all over again.
That said, I personally had no issues with the 65-hp jets on my previous nitrous setup (check sig). I did however have an incident while I was using it.. but I have since surmissed that was a hardware problem with the nitrous FMU and not the 65-hp jettings.
09-10-2009, 02:42 PM
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I've considered uninstalling my setup... while it is fun at the 55 shot, I'm just not sure if it's worth it. I rarely feel like filling the tank, even though it lasts for a while. I'm pretty sure a 100 shot might change my mind on that though. 150 just sounds like a blast. When I first got the system I was hoping to go higher. I have been tempted to give the 65 a try but I dont want to get myself into more trouble than I should.
We need someone like jay leno to invest in BHR projects lol
11-24-2009, 09:03 AM
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that looks like a spacer for where the plastic manifold piece meets the metal part..... i know its aluminum but if i could tap it any of you think it would work.... im kinda skittish about drill into my uim
that looks like a spacer for where the plastic manifold piece meets the metal part..... i know its aluminum but if i could tap it any of you think it would work.... im kinda skittish about drill into my uim
11-24-2009, 05:48 PM
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The BHR team installed my nitrous kit this past September prior to going to Sevenstock. In my opinion the spacer and the stealth nozzle together sealed the deal on the look of the entire kit. I told Ray one of my goals was to have a mostly hidden kit for some of that mystery factor.
Without getting too far off topic, the ZEX blackout combined with the spacer and stealth nozzle gave me the look I was going for. It worked so well that at Sevenstock I had to point out to a vast amount of people that my car had nitrous. Others would see the tank in the trunk and wander back to the engine totally confused.
Even if you're not going for a hidden look the setup is very clean, completly reversable and it works great. I've had the spacer on and off the car a few times for jetting changes without any issues.
Without getting too far off topic, the ZEX blackout combined with the spacer and stealth nozzle gave me the look I was going for. It worked so well that at Sevenstock I had to point out to a vast amount of people that my car had nitrous. Others would see the tank in the trunk and wander back to the engine totally confused.
Even if you're not going for a hidden look the setup is very clean, completly reversable and it works great. I've had the spacer on and off the car a few times for jetting changes without any issues.