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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 10:28 PM
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lol, total n00b question, but i have no idea
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Silverarrow
...oh about... 1 mm

bwahahahhahaha
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 02:12 AM
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On a more serious note, as i understand it the seal itelf is simply wider. However, with most things (some exceptions granted) bigger is not always better - as many before me have pointed out. Usually the 3mm seals are used in a rebuild when there has to be machining done to clean up the grooves. No expert by any means am i however.
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 07:38 AM
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There also is a lot of talk about using 3mm seals in very high boost applications. Anyone know if Ibarra is running 3mm's in his drag car? The 3mm's are simply supposed to be more resistent to failure under detonation.

Years ago, I was always under the impression that 3mm's were the way to go. As of more recently I've started to sway the other way because the factory seals in the REW were good to in excess of 500hp. With proper tuning, this is more than enough for any street/daily driver application as far as I'm concerned. Add to that the Renesis seals are supposed to be even stronger, and the abuse to the apex seals based on the new port configuration is less (the side seals are now being more abused due to the side ports). Also, as we've seen on this board, the engines are taking quite a beating and just keep going. Just look at how much abuse Sapphonica's engine took before dying.
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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Here it is...what you've been waiting for...Renesis necrophilia!

Gouged out rotor housing, tip of an apex seal imbedded in a rotor, blahblahblah.

The last pic shows the difference between a whole apex seal (top) and the one that came out of my dearly departed.
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 11:35 AM
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I feel for you. Let us know when you can how much its going to cost to rebuild your motor. I sure hope my motor lasts longer.
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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can i see the spark plug side of the rotor housing?
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 02:31 PM
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not in those pics ^^ badum bum tish

thank you thank you thank you im here all week
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
not in those pics ^^ badum bum tish

thank you thank you thank you im here all week
Do you take tips?
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by guitarjunkie28
can i see the spark plug side of the rotor housing?
The foetid carcass of my "ProStreet Enhanced" (pox be upon them) Renesis are at Rick's Rotary in Pleasanton. He can probably send pix.
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 07:18 PM
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what have you done for a new motor. just replacing wrecked parts???

look for pm in the next few.

beers
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 11:49 PM
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Bummer about the engine. Has Rick given any possible reasons why it went south?
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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Bummer about the engine. Has Rick given any possible reasons why it went south?
Nope.

My guess is that when it was overboosting (my guess is it spiked to >15 psi), that stressed the apex seals, then they just gave out.

Why was I overboosting? ProStreet (pox be upon them) totally screwed up my install, including a defective boost gauge, which they told me WASN'T defective, even after I pointed out that it was reading -10 with the engine shut off.
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 01:35 PM
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That's just funny - "(pox be upon them)"

I laugh everytime I see that in your posts.
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Sapphonica
My guess is that when it was overboosting (my guess is it spiked to >15 psi), that stressed the apex seals, then they just gave out.
Is it physically possible to boost that high with a stock greddy kit? Scott had to modify the turbo internals to get it over 10psi.
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Devil
That's just funny - "(pox be upon them)"

I laugh everytime I see that in your posts.
I feel 'postal' every time I think of those bozons.
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Sapphonica
Nope.

My guess is that when it was overboosting (my guess is it spiked to >15 psi), that stressed the apex seals, then they just gave out.

Why was I overboosting? ProStreet (pox be upon them) totally screwed up my install, including a defective boost gauge, which they told me WASN'T defective, even after I pointed out that it was reading -10 with the engine shut off.

it wasn't overboost...stock apex seals can handle 20+ psi with ease. it was bad tuning, or too much boost with not enough gas/too much timing.
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 03:43 PM
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You got lucky to a certain extent. I trashed every part of my old engine. Get a reman(from rosenthalmazda in arlington. 3000 grand and it is all new parts. Then do all the porting/motor work that way it is fresh. You are not going to spend anymore or anyless IMO.


Have fun and sorry to hear about your engine.


**** GREDDY
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 06:10 PM
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Or I can provide you one built by the Japanese for even cheaper.
Paul.
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by PUR NRG
Is it physically possible to boost that high with a stock greddy kit? Scott had to modify the turbo internals to get it over 10psi.
Sorry for the confusion, actually you can turn the boost (spike) up to 15psi, the ability to maintain the desired CFM/PSI at higher RPM is the problem.
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 12:32 PM
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Or I can provide you one built by the Japanese for even cheaper.
Paul.

oh yea, how much?
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 12:20 AM
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Or I can provide you one built by the Japanese for even cheaper.
Paul.
I'm interested in that too, email me if you can. Would like to have one for the inevitable blow up I'm going to experience
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 12:55 PM
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^^^
And why are you going to be having an "inevitable blow up"?
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 03:30 PM
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another interested party in why your engine is going to blow
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