tdiddy

So it looks like your torque peak was at ~6700rpm and the hp peak was ~7700rpm with the lines crossing at ~7000rpm.

tajabaho1

I cant see ****.........can you scan with a better scanner?

maxxdamigz

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The hp and tq curves have to be scaled against different Y axis values. The dyno print is tough to read. Either way, nice numbers.

NgoRX8

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lol damn i was wonder how people were reading it. had to tilt the screen back like a ****.

importshowoff84

ok....so everything seems alright then huh? Wish I was keeping this so I could get the ignition and meth injection. I think I could hit close to 400 after all that...

Speedrx8er

Id you are still worry about the line getting snag by something. You could run it up and over the tranny into the engine bay

mysql

why would you want to go to 400? The risk is not worth the payoff for that last 50 whp IMO.

baysj

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The numbers are really faint at the bottom but it looks like the graph starts at 3005 rpm and ends at 7990. The HP is peaking and starting to go down so that could make sense.

"Guess i should hit refresh on the browser more often I didnt see someone allready posted the RPM range"

importshowoff84

You don't think the renny can handle 400? Like you say 50 hp diff. really isnt much...am I at risk right now?? I know the tranny will have a hard time in the 400 range, which would need ot be upgraded as well. Isnt Jeff around 360 whp?

importshowoff84

Is thatt good? lol I have no idea how to read these things besides what the tq and hp lines area lol.

importshowoff84

sorry taj, this is the best I could get...i can barely read the paper with it in front ot me to begin with. Their ink was goin out....

mysql

going up 100 whp is easy, almost no risk. But as you inch closer to the edge, it becomes exponentially more difficult to make sure nothing breaks.

The renesis engine has a bad reputation for breaking, but having seen what it can do both inside and out, I would say it's a fairly hearty engine if properly maintained, and properly tuned. With that said, I still wouldn't want to try for 400 whp. I don't think it's possible on pump gas, as you'd need bandaid solutions to manage it. It wouldn't be a DD in that condition.

shaunv74

Shouldn't the torque and HP be equal at 5250rpm? Presumably these are on the same scale but you have AFR on the y axis not torque or HP so I can't tell. Can they email you the file so you can create a graph with hp and torque numbers on the y axis?

importshowoff84

Hmm....well I mean if this isn't a DD anyway I mean I put probably 5K miles on it a year. And, like you say it more or less comes down to the tuning. But I see what you are saying....the renny does have a bad rep and makes me skeptical of taking it up that high too....wish I had the money to really try and push it ya know?

mysql

even with money, what are you going to do to make it better? I already went over this when I had my chance to redo mine. You can't really do much porting. replacing the apex seals aren't going to help much either - anything that damages the stock ones is still going to be a bad situation for the new ones.

For me, what I did was replace all the parts dealing with compression, all new gaskets and seals, and called it a day.

You can pin the housings, that's about all I can think of if I was going to 400.

importshowoff84

Damn...so you think the max you can really safely take a renny is around 350 ish hp range?

tajabaho1

however dude, nice numbers non theless

but the turbo kit looks like it's very peaky.......

importshowoff84

Im going up to performance autowerks today and ill ask them, PM with what you want me to ask them and want me to do with the file so i can pull it up at their shop

importshowoff84

peaky? not too sure what that means

mysql

depends on a bunch of factors.

- qualify of your gas

- flow rates of your turbo (pushing the greddy to 300 is more dangerous than a 3071R to 330 cause the greddy's AIT will be much higher)

- your ambient temps and humidity, elevation, etc.

I'd stick to 330-360 as my highest comfortable range. But who knows, maybe something like low compression rotors will come out and change everything.

If I were a betting man, I'd say I could do 14 psi on the 3071R and not have issues with just pump gas. I've only gone as high as 12 though. It's crazy. I haven't gotten a dyno with that number, but it feels a lot faster than my dyno run w/ 245 tq at 9 psi.

mysql

if you want just a bragging number, do like the supra guys do. wait till winter, get some dried ice, bunch of fans, race fuel, and keep going till you hit whatever imaginary number tickles your fancy. Just don't expect that to work on a hot summer day on the highway

importshowoff84

Yea, I always use 93 octane and I was gonan use the meth inj for safety issues for gas as well as teh hp gain benefits out of it. But, that is one thing that I was a little pissed about was the low tq reading. I know its a little higher bc its on a mustang but really I was expecting a little more....any ideas? Or is it just the turbo"?

mysql

it's dependent on your turbo choice. how quickly it spools and at what rpm range.

tdiddy

Louie - your car is mean and you have posted the highest HP Esmeril kit so just enjoy it!!!

truemagellen

The problem with the Apex seals are they are too hard/brittle. A set of stronger but less brittle Apex seals would prove immensely beneficial for high HP applications.

The Renesis is capable of 500whp+...albeit it not on pump gas. It shouldn't be pushed much past 400whp on pump gas.