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Brettus 07-20-2010 07:29 PM

Horsepower vs Boost Pressure comparison for Greddy based turbos
 
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Thought this might be interesting to Greddy / Greddy upgrade owners to see what sort of power they can expect to make at various boost levels .
These dynos were all of the same car on the same dyno with more or less the same turbo setup .
Note that boost is not constant for any of the runs so this needs to be looked at in conjunction with the whp result .


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RXPLODE 07-20-2010 08:10 PM

can you point out what power was made with a modded turbo instead of the stock CHRA?

Brettus 07-20-2010 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by RXPLODE (Post 3642160)
can you point out what power was made with a modded turbo instead of the stock CHRA?

The CHRA should not make any difference .
If you are refering to the BNR upgrade there are a few dynos around and from what I've seen there isn't any difference in hp vs boost as compared to above .

olddragger 07-21-2010 11:17 AM

wow good thread Brett. Like this.
OD

Mawnee 07-21-2010 11:26 AM

Its fascinating that once it gets the power curve pushed up early it makes more power with nearly the same boost later on.

Kane 07-21-2010 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by Mawnee (Post 3642822)
Its fascinating that once it gets the power curve pushed up early it makes more power with nearly the same boost later on.

That is how you know the snail is about out of steam.

olddragger 07-22-2010 08:20 AM

and/ or the flow restrictions of the engine start showing its little ugly head.
Kane --you doing ok Dude?--heat index 110F in Ga today!

paulmasoner 07-22-2010 08:27 AM

*sigh*

olddragger 07-22-2010 08:35 AM

"Sigh"??
Uhhh Paul did I come across wrong about flow restrictions?
I only am talking theory---nothing specific.

MazdaManiac 07-22-2010 08:50 AM

The GReddy gets you nowhere near the "flow restrictions" of the motor.

And, clearly, there are other things going on in the car's utilized in this graph since identical pressure at higher RPM is yielding more power in one case, indicating greater flow, which can be attributed to many possible factors not elucidated here.

Brettus 07-22-2010 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 3644071)
And, clearly, there are other things going on in the car's utilized in this graph since identical pressure at higher RPM is yielding more power in one case, indicating greater flow, which can be attributed to many possible factors not elucidated here.

Was wondering if anyone would notice that .
And while i'm not positive I have a nice theory (that might rock a few boats) as to why that was .....

Mawnee 07-22-2010 02:55 PM

Aux ports closed vs open ?

Brettus 07-22-2010 03:00 PM

nope but good guess ... heh

I can tell you that afrs were pretty much identical for all 4 runs but there were some small revisions to the timing . Certainly not enough to make that much difference though .

MazdaManiac 07-22-2010 03:08 PM

Well, rock away!

Mawnee 07-22-2010 03:27 PM

hmm...7250 up .....is it the VDI?

Brettus 07-22-2010 03:36 PM

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anyone remember this ?


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Mawnee 07-22-2010 03:39 PM

ooooo yah! It made the higher power after that came out? hmmmmm

Brettus 07-22-2010 03:42 PM

well it was still in there at the time of the dyno - just not doing what it was supposed to do .

It's a bit of a stretch but it is the only physical difference in the engine I can think of between the two dynos .

RotaryMachineRx 07-22-2010 03:45 PM

haha were's the story behind this?..... Oh and PM recieved Brettus... Thanks for clarifying (Just recieved turbo today!!!)

Mawnee 07-22-2010 04:01 PM

Combine your variable vane engine with a variable turbo and you have a killer setup! :D:

Its too bad there isnt much room to port there.

Brettus 07-22-2010 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by Mawnee (Post 3644654)
Its too bad there isnt much room to port there.

I think a redesigned insert could make a difference .
I don't think the divider needs to be nearly as long as it is to do the job . Combine that with some nice radiused corners and voila ...... double the port capacity .

Spinning Sushi 07-22-2010 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 3644590)
anyone remember this ?


http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...x8/Engine2.jpg

Originally Posted by Mawnee (Post 3644598)
ooooo yah! It made the higher power after that came out? hmmmmm


At least it wasn't a clam in the turbo... (In reference to the Tajabaho turbo build)

Brettus 07-22-2010 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by RotaryMachineRx (Post 3644616)
haha were's the story behind this?.

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tech-garage-22/who-can-guess-what-renesis-engine-part-186578/

RotaryMachineRx 07-22-2010 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 3644722)

Thanks! and also EDIT:


Originally Posted by RotaryMachineRx (Post 3644616)
Oh and PM recieved Brettus... Thanks for clarifying (Just recieved turbo today!!!)

about WBO2 sensors

Mawnee 07-24-2010 09:36 AM

Ok I'm in a random ideas kinda mood...so please bear with me. This is kind of a cross discussion of this thread and the one about your melted housing.

Do the exhaust ports on the center and outer housings share the same shape where the rotor passes them? Or are they smaller for the center housing and the shared ports?

What would happen if I were to make a manifold where the center port was deidicated to the wastege? It would eliminate flow through those ports alltogether until the wastegate cracks. Would it then be subjected to less pressure/resistance under higher boost? Or would forcing all the bleeding of pressure through the center actually create more heat and/or boost creep?


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