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MazdaManiac 02-02-2005 10:39 PM

Your little birdies assertion is gratuitous.

The 13b seals were good for significantly more than that and the Renesis seals are better than those.
Add to that the issue that not too many Renesis' have been taken to 13 PSI yet (the fuel system can't keep up with that), and you have no data points for such an analysis.

Emsdad 02-02-2005 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Good to see they feel free to use your car as a coaster...

That's funny! That was the first thing I saw when I looked at that pic.

ttt 02-02-2005 10:41 PM

why mazdatrix is not selling the turbo no more?

ttt 02-02-2005 10:43 PM

Anybody?

Nemesis8 02-02-2005 10:59 PM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Your little birdies assertion is gratuitous.

Oh trust me, I was the first one to question that as soon as he said it. I didn't beleive it also. I'll go give him the thumb screw.

shawrf1 02-03-2005 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by epitrochoid
maybe shawrf1 could chime in here about the oil pan, his car has one.

and i think that the best way to go. no messing with heaters or long drain lines to the nether regions of the engine bay. just a nice clean pan. and the extra capacity wont hurt either.

I guess I'm a few pages too late on this one (this thread is hard to keep up with), but here's the oil pan with the oil return line and how my catch can is installed (routed from the intake, to the catch can, back to the oil filler neck). I can't take credit for the install.

Hope that helps.

Like I stated in another thread, I've had the kit for 3 months and ~1500 miles. No problems w/the turbo kit and it's daily driven. ;)

Rob

RX-Nut 02-03-2005 01:03 AM


Originally Posted by shawrf1
Like I stated in another thread, I've had the kit for 3 months and ~1500 miles. No problems w/the turbo kit and it's daily driven. ;)
Rob

Whoa.. 3 mos and 1500mi without a hiccup?? That's encouraging! Stock Maps?? Wouldnt that make you the first one, before Jon?

shawrf1 02-03-2005 01:09 AM


Originally Posted by RX-Nut
Whoa.. 3 mos and 1500mi without a hiccup?? That's encouraging! Stock Maps?? Wouldnt that make you the first one, before Jon?

Yes. But Jon still holds the title for the first down & dirty, self-installed, paid-for, mass-produced turbo on the market... kudos! And yes, I'm using stock GReddy maps. In fact, everyone's map was tuned and copied from the one I have.

Rob

Fanman 02-03-2005 01:09 AM


Originally Posted by rudy8

1. Rotary Extreme (Chuck) has this turbo kit for 2800 plus ship

Man, & I checked their website before I ordered, it said $3295 (on sale). Damn, I though I was getting a good deal at $2929.

RX-Nut 02-03-2005 01:17 AM


Originally Posted by shawrf1
Yes. But Jon still holds the title for the first down & dirty, self-installed, paid-for, mass-produced turbo on the market... kudos! And yes, I'm using stock GReddy maps. In fact, everyone's map was tuned and copied from the one I have.

Rob

Wow.. sweet. so we have you to thank as the turbo guinea pig, if you will! :D

I'm curious.. did you or are you planning a motor teardown to see what effects, if any, the turbo is having on the Renesis... or have you seen?

Broke_Apex_Seal 02-03-2005 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by epitrochoid
what did that gray market warranty set you back?

im considering doing the same since my dealer gets all fired up when i talk about how i really drive that car

I tip them every time I go there usally 20 bucks. And I said to the tech " I want a turbo kit how would you feel?" he replied "Fucking right get that bitch and I will help you put it on!". I asked him about the warranty and he still was like "fuck it I will push it thru" Also I am going to give them all $200 bucks for doing all that they have done for me.Really nice guys and it is hard to find that these days:) .

-Ryan

MarWar80 02-03-2005 09:24 AM

Guys, Especially Philodox and Mazda Maniac.
I completed installing the Greddy turbo kit to the specifications to which were on the translated instructions. Everything sounds great when the car is stationary and even while revving the engine. However, here is when I started having problems. When going out for a quick test drive. The engine sounded like it was drowning when reaching about 5 k in second gear. We have not messed with the Emanage, because it is suppose to be already pre-set. My mechanic thinks it may be because the BOV has not been installed yet and is not letting the presure release quick enouph. The "Check Engine" light also came on now. Any takes on this problem?

RX8-TX 02-03-2005 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by MarWar80
The engine sounded like it was drowning when reaching about 5 k in second gear............ My mechanic thinks it may be because the BOV has not been installed yet and is not letting the presure release quick enouph. The "Check Engine" light also came on now. Any takes on this problem?

No expert here but, from what I can gather, the BOV would have an effect only when you go off boost, and flow will revert its path and go back through the turbine housing (slowing it...)

philodox 02-03-2005 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by MarWar80
Guys, Especially Philodox and Mazda Maniac.
I completed installing the Greddy turbo kit to the specifications to which were on the translated instructions. Everything sounds great when the car is stationary and even while revving the engine. However, here is when I started having problems. When going out for a quick test drive. The engine sounded like it was drowning when reaching about 5 k in second gear. We have not messed with the Emanage, because it is suppose to be already pre-set. My mechanic thinks it may be because the BOV has not been installed yet and is not letting the presure release quick enouph. The "Check Engine" light also came on now. Any takes on this problem?

I had the CEL come on for me as well soon after install. The metal gasket GReddy provides that connects the air pump hose to the downpipe is wrong. Don't use it. Instead use the stock metal gasket for the air pump hose. The diameter of the hole for air is too small with the Greddy gasket. The stock gasket will work perfectly. The CEL you probably have is "Secondary Air Flow - Bad" or something like that.

MarWar80 02-03-2005 10:08 AM

Thanks, I will try that right now!

MazdaManiac 02-03-2005 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by shawrf1
... and how my catch can is installed (routed from the intake, to the catch can, back to the oil filler neck).

That is how it should be installed - that gets rid of vapor and moisture.


Originally Posted by Broke_Apex_Seal
I asked him about the warranty and he still was like "fuck it I will push it thru" Also I am going to give them all $200 bucks for doing all that they have done for me.Really nice guys and it is hard to find that these days .

-Ryan

Which dealer is that? I might want to start using them.

crossbow 02-03-2005 10:19 AM

Ya seriously...what dealership is that??? :) Only competent dealership I've found, that embraces mods (as long as they aren't breaking stuff) is about a 6-8 hour drive from MD =/.

Btw Jeff, nice car :). It'll be nice in the spring/summer when we actually have sunlight and not a LED flashlight to see the engine bay.

MazdaManiac 02-03-2005 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by crossbow
Btw Jeff, nice car :). It'll be nice in the spring/summer when we actually have sunlight and not a LED flashlight to see the engine bay.

Thanks! I think I'll bring one of those halogen worklights with me to the March meeting. :D

MarWar80 02-03-2005 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by philodox
I had the CEL come on for me as well soon after install. The metal gasket GReddy provides that connects the air pump hose to the downpipe is wrong. Don't use it. Instead use the stock metal gasket for the air pump hose. The diameter of the hole for air is too small with the Greddy gasket. The stock gasket will work perfectly. The CEL you probably have is "Secondary Air Flow - Bad" or something like that.


Philodox, It didn't work! Still doing the same thing :confused:

Broke_Apex_Seal 02-03-2005 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
That is how it should be installed - that gets rid of vapor and moisture.



Which dealer is that? I might want to start using them.


Fitzgerald Mazda

Bob is my tech! He rocks to the max.
Let me know I will hook you up with him.

JoeMamma 02-03-2005 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by rudy8
can i inturrupt?
two things.

1. Rotary Extreme (Chuck) has this turbo kit for 2800 plus ship

2. does anyone know if I need to take off my SR underdrive pulleys and restore stock pulleys when i put on the greedy?

Their site shows the price as $3695, and the "special price" at $3295. Is he giving us a nice break?

philodox 02-03-2005 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by MarWar80
Philodox, It didn't work! Still doing the same thing :confused:

I dunno man.. Hard for me to say without looking at your setup. You said it bogs down when you get on the gas right? It could be the MAF sensor is going wild. Sitting so close to the filter the air can get kind of turbulant which would give the MAF sensor funky readings. If you look a bunch of pages back, you'll see what I did to fix that part by using the wire mesh screens that came from the stock airbox. Find the pic in this thread and give it a shot. If you have a hard time finding it, just "search this thread" from the toolbar near the top of the page.

-Jon

MazdaManiac 02-03-2005 01:30 PM

There are a number of possible causes - open or leaking pipes to and from the intercooler, improper routing of the air lines that were hooked up to the OEM intake pipe, leaking BOV, open vacuum line somewhere, etc. Those are just somce of the issues from installing the kit. There could also be other mitigating problems that existed prior to the install - bad plug or plug wire, failing or clogged oil injection pump, etc.

I'd start with a complete reset of the ECU and then get at least four drive cycles in with no boost under any circumstances.

Nemesis8 02-03-2005 06:52 PM

Jeff & Jon, the little birdie divulged his source today about the 13 PSI. It was part of the classroom training to become a master mechanic on the Renesis at Irvine. He said the 13 PSI was in their training text for the maximum safe level of boost. He also said that sure, the seals will take a hell of allot more boost, but after all the testing on blowing engines down there, they settled on 13 PSI as the max safe boost with OEM seals. He got to watch them blow one up. He said the entire building was vibrating just before it blew.

He also showed me where our trannies are failing. Its the plate that keeps the main shaft from moving back and forth. It's a small part that is not very thick. He said it was a weak design, and the outside edges fracture and allow the main shaft to move. He said you can fix it without opening the tranny up pretty simply.

He said to wait a year or so, and we will all be surprised what is coming our way. He said the USDM MS8 will be boosted to about 8-10 PSI, but it is down the road aways behind the Mazdaspeed 6. That is what corporate told them at school.

ttt 02-03-2005 06:56 PM

for real


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