sauceyI986

I am tryin to buy and put together all what i need to have a custom turbo built for my car and i was wondering which is a real good engine managment system that is user friendly, and is also easier to tune myself, if i want. The turbo i will be running will be a Garrett GT4094R. The only engine managment system's that i know o,f that are plug and tune is intercepter-x and Greddy Ultimate, in other words what im trying to say which out of the to is user shop friendly and easier to tune.

chickenwafer

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Good God man, that turbo is overkill (especially the turbine side).

And like CHR mentioned, more info would be nice. But you may want to look at the Int-X. Judging by the turbo you want to use, you are going to need some serious fuel.

sauceyI986

what type of more info do u guys need. pleae explain?

sauceyI986

looking to go Map-based, my climate is in Phoenix,Az it not hot yet but will, my budget is around $5500 getting most of my parts wholesale.

chickenwafer

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Just out of curiosity why are you going with a turbo rated to flow over 900-horsepower?


I would recommend the Int-X, but only if you're handy tuning it since it requires constant adjustments when there are drastic changes in weather.

Rootski

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As far mangs, you've got your ese, your cholo, your amigo, and your gringo.

sauceyI986

i see i see

MazdaManiac

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So, you are here in PHX? Do you ever get around to any of the local events?
I can see Laveen from my house (I'm in the Foothills).

sauceyI986

yep. here in AZ. Also i havent been to any of the local events at all yet .i just been really have been working and going to school alot. I will be as soon as i buy some more wheels for my car, plusi havent really drove my car since october. but i do plan to have a tcustom turbo on my car at least for my birthday which is in june.

MazdaManiac

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So, who is fabricating your system? What is the layout going to be like?
Since you are going with such an enormous turbo, you will need a massive fueling system from the pump up.
You will need a stand-alone engine management to take care of the kind of power you are looking for.
Who is doing your engine build/porting/machining?

sauceyI986

humm dam i forgot about that. I think im going to have Turblown do the turbo manifold. as far as standalone i know that is gona start eating into my pockets and budget.. im trying to go for the look like as of the mazsport stage 3 kit sits. but dont want to pay the price for that kit, i do know it comes with everything but im kind leanin towards something a little bit different. I thought about the Greddy as well but i dont like where the turbo sits. To me it just not aesthetically pleasing to me. im not sure yet about getting it ported just yet or rebuild just yet. I know Greddy probably seems like a wiser choice i just want need power and not that im in to street racing cause, im not i just want to be able to keep up with the gto and some of the other cars.

MazdaManiac

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OK then. It would probably pay for you to spend some time researching your options because you are pointed down money street at the moment.

sauceyI986

MazdaManiac i have a quick question about your turbo, im not sure if it was posted on yours or about someone elses but do u have a external wastegate that let off in the atmosphere on your turbo.

MazdaManiac

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Wastegates should be vented into the exhaust system.
The wastegate on the GReddy system and my upgrade are internal, anyway.

staticlag

I have an atmospheric wastegate

The only kit that has posted so far of the atmospheric is the esmeril kit.

www.esmerilracing.com

MazdaManiac

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Yeah, that's a pretty stupid option, IMO.
Just get rid of the rest of your exhaust system while you are at it.
At least you will actually make power with that option.

staticlag

Oh, its going, next mod is going to be a 3" straight exhaust with one silencer

sauceyI986

ok i should have just renamed this thread, but anyways what would be a good turbo to hook up with the E-Manage Ultimate since some say i that the Garrett GT4094R is to big and that i would have to use a standalone, because i really dont wana do that much work.

chickenwafer

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SpeedForceRacing (SFR) has a pretty nice kit as well


A GT4094R IS too big. What A/R housings are you getting? What are your power goals? If you're getting a turbo that big the E-Manage Ultimate will max out of fuel and ignition timing before you realize half that's snails potential.

sauceyI986

my max im trying to get is 420hp and that with the fuel pump upgrade etc. I also have no plane to port my engine unless i by a back up and have that one alreaday to go and just dropin.

sauceyI986

and is it possible to get 420 hp out of the greddy kit with the MazdaManiac Greddy upgrade kit.

sauceyI986

to the wheels

chickenwafer

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No one's attempted 420-rwhp but the compressor map on MM's custom 3071R and MFR's for the Renesis show a possible 410-rwhp or so.

Really tho, I think you're underestimating 350-rwhp in a 3000-lbs car with amazing handling and steering. 350 will easily scare you.

chickenwafer

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Not to mention start pushing more power means more boost, more aggressive ignition timing, lots of fuel, and stuff starts failing. If you want 420-rwhp, you aren't going to get it easily on pump gas, especially with the worse-than-California pump 91 catpiss we have in AZ.

chickenwafer

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It's not unobtainable, just difficult. It turns the car into a whole other beast.

I forgot about alky injection, tho, my bad.