Goal: 400RWHP turbo 6port - I have a few questions
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Goal: 400RWHP turbo 6port - I have a few questions
My goal is to get around 400rwhp from the 6port engine but as I'm new to rx8s I have a few questions. .
1) Will the 6 speed manual transmission and the differential take the torque?
2) Can I use a stand alone ecu or must the factory ecu be retained. If I remove it will the warning lights/gauges/speedo still operate?
3) What cc are the factory fuel injectors?
4) Has anyone replaced the fly by wire with a manual cable?
5) Can the power steering be removed (like the FDs) or is there a manual rack available?
6) Is there a high-flow intercooler available designed specifically for the RX8?
7) Is there anything specific to turbocharging the RX8 I should know about aside from the 10:1 compression?
At this stage I would like the engine to remain stock.
Thankyou for reading.
1) Will the 6 speed manual transmission and the differential take the torque?
2) Can I use a stand alone ecu or must the factory ecu be retained. If I remove it will the warning lights/gauges/speedo still operate?
3) What cc are the factory fuel injectors?
4) Has anyone replaced the fly by wire with a manual cable?
5) Can the power steering be removed (like the FDs) or is there a manual rack available?
6) Is there a high-flow intercooler available designed specifically for the RX8?
7) Is there anything specific to turbocharging the RX8 I should know about aside from the 10:1 compression?
At this stage I would like the engine to remain stock.
Thankyou for reading.
Last edited by PSI; 11-19-2006 at 02:08 AM.
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Answers-
1) Probably not.
2) Yes, yes, and yes.
3) 290, 380 and 380, per rotor.
4) The answers to all these questions are freely available here,
having been answered every week since the car was released, in 2003.
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(I really like question 7!)
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Answers-
1) Probably not.
2) Yes, yes, and yes.
3) 290, 380 and 380, per rotor.
4) The answers to all these questions are freely available here,
having been answered every week since the car was released, in 2003.
Please consult the FAQ sections before you go any further.....
(I really like question 7!)
S
#4
Just talk to scott (mazsportscott) or betsy (mazsportmantis). They have 4 400whp turbo kits. Just go into the mazsport vendor section and read the threads about each turbo kit.
https://www.rx8club.com/mazsport-104/
https://www.rx8club.com/mazsport-104/
#6
I doubt it. The engine might be 3k but then you have to do a custom turbo kit to fit and thats a few more thousand plus engine management and custom motor mounts and other misc stuff and labor on top of it all. The price would add up quick.
#8
Step 1: remove contents from glovebox
Step 2: cram full of $100 dollar bills until it barely shuts
Step 3: drop car off at mazsport
That's basically it. Converting to manual steering and manual throttle not required.
I wonder what a ported renesis could do with a mazsport turbo setup?
Step 2: cram full of $100 dollar bills until it barely shuts
Step 3: drop car off at mazsport
That's basically it. Converting to manual steering and manual throttle not required.
I wonder what a ported renesis could do with a mazsport turbo setup?
Last edited by BaronVonBigmeat; 11-20-2006 at 01:22 AM.
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Originally Posted by BaronVonBigmeat
I wonder what a ported renesis could do with a mazsport turbo setup?
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Originally Posted by Bart!
So would a standalone ecu and all the other **** he wants.
#13
your best bet for a reliable 400whp is to talk to scott at mazsport and have him build you a one-off version of the turbo kit with a .96 hot side. the hotside it comes with is great, but might choke it out just a bit at 400+whp.
after that, just the normal fuel system and ecu upgrades, etc... i'd probably do 6 720cc injectors, denso fuel pump, regulator, interceptor, etc...
tranny will live if you avoid hard launching and take it easy on the shifts.
if you use an ems, you can ditch the drive-by-wire, but if you do get an ems that controls it, there's no reason to.
after that, just the normal fuel system and ecu upgrades, etc... i'd probably do 6 720cc injectors, denso fuel pump, regulator, interceptor, etc...
tranny will live if you avoid hard launching and take it easy on the shifts.
if you use an ems, you can ditch the drive-by-wire, but if you do get an ems that controls it, there's no reason to.
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Originally Posted by Ciao
How about a set of S6 rotors machined to fit ,dowell it ,port it ,strap on a GT42R and vwalla 500HP at 15psi
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
I still have serious concerns with the longterm reliability of the S6 rotors in a Renesis. I'd be watching the side seals very closely.
Paul.
#16
Originally Posted by rotarygod
I still have serious concerns with the longterm reliability of the S6 rotors in a Renesis. I'd be watching the side seals very closely.
when he said machined to fit, i think he meant machined to accept the new side seals. i've talked to a few shops about doing that.
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Some of us actually find that you get the most value out of trying stuff on our own cars. If it fails... Well, at least you'll know for sure if it doesn't work. No pain no gain I say, you wanna do it? Go for it.
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Thankyou for the fast replys.
I don't want to be opening the engine at this stage so FD rotors are not an option, and I also have doubts about the sideseals.
I'm in New Zealand so I can't go see Mazsport and after reading about their products it appears the 400hp kit is not yet available?
The reason I want to remove the fly by wire is to use a Microtech computer which can't run the FBW. It can't run the OMP either but thats easy enough to modify for manual control.
Unless someone can suggest an ECU more suited to the RX8?
I can fabricate an intercooler no problem but I don't know enough about end tank design so I would rather buy a properly designed unit from a well known company.
I will only remove the power steer if I have to but I thought I should ask now before I start.
Stealth - can you please clarify your first post, did you mean the factory ecu must be retained no matter what?
I should mention that I will be doing this for a customer and money is not really an issue here.
Thanks again.
I don't want to be opening the engine at this stage so FD rotors are not an option, and I also have doubts about the sideseals.
I'm in New Zealand so I can't go see Mazsport and after reading about their products it appears the 400hp kit is not yet available?
The reason I want to remove the fly by wire is to use a Microtech computer which can't run the FBW. It can't run the OMP either but thats easy enough to modify for manual control.
Unless someone can suggest an ECU more suited to the RX8?
I can fabricate an intercooler no problem but I don't know enough about end tank design so I would rather buy a properly designed unit from a well known company.
I will only remove the power steer if I have to but I thought I should ask now before I start.
Stealth - can you please clarify your first post, did you mean the factory ecu must be retained no matter what?
I should mention that I will be doing this for a customer and money is not really an issue here.
Thanks again.
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The new ecu does not need to control drive by wire. You leave the stock ecu in place. You just disconnect it from the injectors. You also disconnect the factory coils from the stock ecu but leave the ignition pickup wire hooked up. You wire in the new ecu to control the injectors and the ignition. It works. You do not need to remove power steering or anything else.
#24
i'd just email scott and tell him what you're doing. their kit + bigger turbine housing and injectors will land you an easy 400 as long as your octane can keep up with the compression ratio.
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
I still have serious concerns about that. It makes me very nervous.
Would that be difficult??Everything should fit .Use an intercepter and your done .....