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schaffer6988 09-26-2011 10:59 AM

Garret t3... Need help
 
Just had a Garrett t3 given to me from a buddy of mine. I just want to know what y'all suggest I get to compliment the boost.

9krpmrx8 09-26-2011 11:50 AM

I suggest you search. You need to get a basic understanding of turbocharging an RX-8 before you start a custom turbo build on hand me down parts.

RIWWP 09-26-2011 11:59 AM

The #1 best support component to have for any turbo installation is $10,000 in cash.

The 2nd best supporting component is a 2nd engine.

The rest is all in the details.

The subforum that you posted in is overflowing with information about the troubles you will have pushing more air into this engine, regardless of how you do that pushing. Start by reading up on the build threads. Our engine has exactly ZERO tolerance for mistakes or flaws, and even if everything is perfectly done, the exhaust port heat levels are too high for the engine to last all that long.




Best advice for you:
Sell the turbo to someone else and buy something else with the cash.

RX8Soldier 09-26-2011 01:21 PM

What they said.

I actually believe someone is looking for just the turbo.

EDIT: oops! I was thinking this was a different turbo. Damn hangover lol

Chris 09-26-2011 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by RIWWP (Post 4086972)
Best advice for you:
Sell the turbo to someone else and buy something else with the cash.

good advise :lol:

alnielsen 09-26-2011 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by RIWWP (Post 4086972)
Best advice for you:
Sell the turbo to someone else and buy something else with the cash.

What he said. Besides, that turbo probably isn't sized right for a rotary anyway.

Chris 09-26-2011 02:56 PM

lots of downer posts :(

I say go for it :D

paimon.soror 09-26-2011 02:59 PM

you guys are silly, how do you know he isn't going to use this as a mantle piece .... clearly it can't be for any legit auto application when a guy walks in holding a snail and not sure where to go next.

WingleBeast 09-26-2011 06:18 PM

just plug it in to your camshaft sprocket and should add like 75 HP without tuning

Chris 09-27-2011 08:09 AM

your going to need to get with a shop that has the ability to weld,

step one is creating your manifold. tubular or log, then you will need to figure out where you are going to mount said turbo.

from there its down hill :ugh2:

laythor 09-27-2011 11:45 AM

your buddy didn't give you a turbo, he gave you a headache.

In all seriousness, going on FI on the 8 isn't as easy as most other cars. The aftermarket options are nowhere near as varied and the tuner support is not as vast. Take some time and read the major horsepower section.

jay_tibo 09-29-2011 05:53 PM

I use to run T3 as the stock turbo on 2.3 fords, stock they did 10 to 15 psi and could easily push 20 a little overkill for the 8 without serious mods. You need to realize the bigger the turbo the higher boost levels it can produce but the more lag you get (by no means is a T3 big as far as turbo standards go but as far as 8 turbo's it is). Like others have mentioned the turbo itself is not the big work.

Cheers

WingleBeast 09-29-2011 06:16 PM

a 2.3 ford flows 1.15 liters a revolution, a RX8 flows 2.6 liters per revolution.

apples and oranges here dude

bse50 09-29-2011 06:32 PM

"T3" doesn't even mean much per se!

jay_tibo 09-30-2011 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by WingleBeast (Post 4090290)
a 2.3 ford flows 1.15 liters a revolution, a RX8 flows 2.6 liters per revolution.

apples and oranges here dude

I was referring to the size of the turbo strictly, funny I have a GReddy turbo and it's not 2 times the size of a T25 which pushes equivalent pressure for a stock SR20 which flows less then an 8? As far as turbo's go it's not apples and oranges a turbo's a turbo. And check your math for 1 revolution of the eccentric shaft how many cycle is that?? .............. one third of the rotor, so no an 8 does not flow 2.6 litres per revolution it flows 1.3.

Case in point a T3 is a big turbo for an RX8 without major upgrades.

bse50 09-30-2011 09:18 AM

Pushing equivalent pressure?
Also... a turbo's not "just" a turbo.
A\Rs, trims, compressor, housing all play a role...

jay_tibo 09-30-2011 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by bse50 (Post 4090666)
Pushing equivalent pressure?
Also... a turbo's not "just" a turbo.
A\Rs, trims, compressor, housing all play a role...

Yes I agree all these elements affect the result of a Turbo and can make a big difference. But a T3 at it's smallest configuration is still not equivalent to a T25. And I ment a turbo's a turbo as in it's function does not change if either attached to a rotary or a piston engine, it pushes a volume of air and is driven by the exhaust gases.

I do realize a rotary responds differently to boost, and by no means am I debating this.

bse50 09-30-2011 01:54 PM

So since you know all these things why didn't you start a more accurate thread to avoid sounding like a complete douche? ;)

Start again by stating what turbo is that, what you want to do with it and what are your fabbing\tuning skills!

jay_tibo 10-01-2011 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by bse50 (Post 4090986)
So since you know all these things why didn't you start a more accurate thread to avoid sounding like a complete douche? ;)

Start again by stating what turbo is that, what you want to do with it and what are your fabbing\tuning skills!

Sorry I didn't start this thread (whats this about a douche?), just putting my 2 cents without confusing the guy asking the question Not looking for a pissing match.

bse50 10-01-2011 09:32 AM

I know I am a douche! Mistaking you for the OP was laughable, i admit it!

jay_tibo 10-01-2011 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by bse50 (Post 4091344)
I know I am a douche! Mistaking you for the OP was laughable, i admit it!

:beerchug:


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