The Revi intake will not fit with the piping that comes with the Greddy Turbo Kit turbo......
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Don't bother wasting your money on pullies. I have the SR units on my car & when I dynoed them they gave me about a whopping 1 hp (posted on this board a long time ago). Not to mention it tripped my CEL. Better off spending your money on other stuff.
You do realize that when you get the Greddy, the RB REVi intake will be replaced, & useless. Also an HKS PF-Con Pro will replace the Emanage (but not the E-01 if you use it as a boost controller (in which case you may want to look at the Type S unit or B Spec, as it is much less expensive than the E-01 unit, which is both an Emanage & Boost Controller). Unless you are planning to go beyond the stock boost settings (about 7 psi in the rev range & 5 on the top) there is no need for the boost controller. |
Also note if you wanted to use the HKS F-CON PRO.. you can only go to a Pro Dealer to tune it... which are very very limited.. There is only about 12 shops in north america that can do it.
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Originally Posted by Hybrid-RX8
The Revi intake will not fit with the piping that comes with the Greddy Turbo Kit turbo......
Fanman what do you suggest me to do??I am installing the canzoomer midp-4 Tuesday and i really don't know what else can i do till the fi os sc day come...
Originally Posted by Hybrid-RX8
Also note if you wanted to use the HKS F-CON PRO.. you can only go to a Pro Dealer to tune it... which are very very limited.. There is only about 12 shops in north america that can do it.
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For the $400 you would have spent on the pullies, there really isn't much more you can do to an NA RX8 that can later be used for a turboed RX8. You pretty much have all the parts. About the only thing that you can still use right now is the Canzoomer piggyback unit, but then that becomes useless once you get the turbo kit, as the kit comes with an E-Manage unit (similar to the CZ). Save your money & if you are going to go turbo look at gauges, gauge pod, BOV, etc.
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Thanks for the suggestion..
I am holding my breath till i finish my summer mods and then i can start collecting money again... :D I hope everything goes out well.. Oh i forgot to say that as an addition to the greddy kit as long with the bov,oil pan,oil catch can,maybe pulleys, i ll send my oil pump to rb to modify it as they say on their site... I am in the stage of reading like mad everything about the greddy turbo-superchargers etc etc and i believe the feeling of the turbo is the best and offcourse the sound of the bov!!!I can't stop thinking that sound!!!Sh*t i can't sleep now... :D |
[QUOTE=GrRx8MaZdA]Custom tubing and custom placing the bov...I have asked the mechanic here who is many years in rotors and this is not such difficult thing..And from what i have heard the airinix isn't the best choice...
You don't need to go to any rotary mechanic to retro fit a custom intake on... any standard fabricator can do it.. but it would be kinda a waste to place so much effort, time or money trying make it fit.. Your from Greece..wow.. hows the avaliability for parts and tuners there? |
i bet teh cost is up there:( which kinda sucks. bu good luck with everything..i lvoe reading this thread..lots of great info in here:D:D:D
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Originally Posted by Hybrid-RX8
Your from Greece..wow.. hows the avaliability for parts and tuners there?
many pretend to know a lot, but very few of them are trully good... their prices are amazingly high too, for parts and labor time. You can get your engine easily blown to pieces... that's why we have redeemed ourselves through the car clubs and the internet. God bless America! haha ;) |
Originally Posted by GrRx8MaZdA
I am in the stage of reading like mad everything about the greddy turbo-superchargers etc etc and i believe the feeling of the turbo is the best and offcourse the sound of the bov!!!I can't stop thinking that sound!!!Sh*t i can't sleep now... :D
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...&page=13&pp=15 |
Whats the word Manuel?
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Sorry to everyone!
But remember that I was on Disney world for the last week I just arrive yesterday to Puerto Rico it was a vacation trip with my family...............I'm so tired but I really enjoy to see the face of my kids. Hybrid RX8, the injectors are 850 cc, with this injectors when you open the hook you can hear them working................. GrRx8Mazda, As Fanman says, you would not see any HP improvements on replace the pulleys. When I installed the pulleys it was looking that the car rev's up faster.............. On the other hand I'm using the greddy type S boost controller. We use the type S because we just want a boost controller and is so simple to set it. punishr, There is something new............. When we replaced the factory air flow sensor with a new one that works with the new ECU, we found that when we disconect the factory one our alternator light came "on" we just connect it again and the light came "off". It's connected doin nothing........... I really don't know what detects the factory ECU that turns on the alternator light. We also installed a new oxygen sensor to tune the car this week. This is the third sensor that I installed, my friends on mazda give them on warranty, but for me they are not good ones. We just need that the sensor works well during the tuning once the car is finished the sensors is not goin to do big changes on our ECU settings. Manuel |
how many 850CC injectors did you get?
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4 injectors............
Manuel |
Good job on the turbo can't wait to hear more.
On a side note do you have any pics of the interior that you were talking about with all of the carbon fiber peices, just curious what you have and how it looks, don't mean to highjack. Thanks |
Devious,
I really don't have pictures of the interior of the car........ The car is on the shop but I think that we're goin to work on it tomorrow, I would try to take some pictures................. Manuel |
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Devious,
here are your pictures ................. Manuel |
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Yesterday we work hard on the car ..........
We set the low boost at 11 psi making 288 HP and in high boost we maked 305 HP, but at 16 psi of boost. I don't have plans on use the high boost until we try a few thinks.......... I think that we can make the 305 HP at 11-12 psi. We really spected more HP from our settings but our car is running to rich our FAR is on 11.0-11.2 range, we try to run the car more lean to find more HP but we can't............. On my understanding we need that the turbine supplies more CFM (air). One of the options is to change the propeller to a bigger one. This kit was designed to run 5-7 psi and the piping it was designed for that, the air need to run near 3 feet before find the propeller, we would try to increase the piping size and make it shorter before try to change the propeller, To do this we need to put the battery of the on the back of the car. We need to tune the car a little bit but all looks ok, I'm goin to use the car for a few weeks to see if there is any problem until we deside what we're goin to do............... Manuel |
This is really cool. I am really enjoying what you are doing Manuel!
http://www.mazdamaniac.com/images/sm...k_Emoticon.gif As an off-topic aside - I can totally hear your accent when you type. It isn't bothersome at all - your misspelling of words just shows how you would pronounce them naturally and I find it fascinating! Really. Normally things like that bother me but, for some reason, I think it is cool this time. Maybe it is because you are consistent. |
Let's see here, someone in the very recent past tried to argue with me as to how this turbo can flow 400+ hp on a rotary while I said that number only applied to a piston engine due to it's different use of air. I also stated that based on the differences I felt that this turbo could do no more than right around 300 hp or so. This shows 305 at 16 lbs of boost! Close enough. He has also confirmed what I had said that this turbo can not flow enough air in cfm to make much more than this. It turns into a giant heater. At 16 psi, I guarantee that it is blowing some very VERY hot air. He expected more power with his settings. If you expected your turbo to be able to do 400 hp then yes you would probably expect more from a lower boost number. Note that RX8PR was not the one arguing with me and I am not bashing the Greddy turbo. He just proved my point though that this turbo is not made for the high horsepower numbers over 300 hp that some are thinking it will regardless of what it is "rated" at on a piece of paper somewhere. It was designed with it's efficiency at around the boost levels it comes at and for a cerain power level. It does that very well. I'd love to see a response from the person who argued with me in the other thread about this! :D
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
It non so much that he is opening the ports as that he has removed the valves.
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^^Uh, that was my point.
Without the sleeves, he now has big, mishapen, open ports all of the time.
Originally Posted by rotarygod
LI'd love to see a response from the person who argued with me in the other thread about this! :D
In the meantime, I'll argue with you. Blah blah blah. Mine goes to 11. I can boost bigger.http://www.mazdamaniac.com/images/sm...con_mecker.gif Oops. I forgot. I have a T3/T4 hybrid, not the little Mitsu in the Greddy kit. Never mind!http://www.mazdamaniac.com/images/smiles/nana2.gif |
Originally Posted by RX8PR
Yesterday we work hard on the car ..........
We set the low boost at 11 psi making 288 HP and in high boost we maked 305 HP, but at 16 psi of boost. I don't have plans on use the high boost until we try a few thinks.......... I think that we can make the 305 HP at 11-12 psi. We really spected more HP from our settings but our car is running to rich our FAR is on 11.0-11.2 range, we try to run the car more lean to find more HP but we can't............. On my understanding we need that the turbine supplies more CFM (air). One of the options is to change the propeller to a bigger one. This kit was designed to run 5-7 psi and the piping it was designed for that, the air need to run near 3 feet before find the propeller, we would try to increase the piping size and make it shorter before try to change the propeller, To do this we need to put the battery of the on the back of the car. We need to tune the car a little bit but all looks ok, I'm goin to use the car for a few weeks to see if there is any problem until we deside what we're goin to do............... Manuel Those are good numbers, what ECU are you using? |
What flange is on Greddy's exhaust manifold? It looks like either a T3 or a T25. There must be other turbos that can be bolted on with larger compressors...
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Jeff,
-Out off topic- English is not my first language............... If you check my first post on this thread I tell every one about that, sometimes other members of the forum that speak Spanish write something on Spanish and I always answer them in my bad English just for respect to the other members that don't know Spanish. Manuel |
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Demon,
The problem to try to bolt other turbo is space..........if you want to install other turbine it's better to make a custom manifold. We're thinking on change the actual propeller on the greddy turbo.............. Look the "yo-yo" that is installed on the other RX8 that is on the shop. My mechanic makes a custom manifold to install it............. Manuel |
Originally Posted by RX8PR
Demon,
The problem to try to bolt other turbo is space..........if you want to install other turbine it's better to make a custom manifold. We're thinking on change the actual propeller on the greddy turbo.............. Look the "yo-yo" that is installed on the other RX8 that is on the shop. My mechanic makes a custom manifold to install it............. Manuel I was originally thinking of purchasing the Greddy kit, but if 300rwhp is really its limit and there isn't anymore room to fit a larger turbo in there that seems less appealing all of a sudden. I was hoping the turbo would be good to 350rwhp or so. I will be curious to see if you are able to find a new compressor wheel for the T618Z that is effective. Good luck! |
Originally Posted by RX8PR
Jeff,
-Out off topic- English is not my first language............... If you check my first post on this thread I tell every one about that, sometimes other members of the forum that speak Spanish write something on Spanish and I always answer them in my bad English just for respect to the other members that don't know Spanish. Manuel You don't have to explain it :confused: |
Originally Posted by demon
Interesting that he was still able to fit the turbo to the side of the engine. I like the PTP and SFR kits, but the positioning of the turbo at the front of the motor is really a turn-off.
I was originally thinking of purchasing the Greddy kit, but if 300rwhp is really its limit and there isn't anymore room to fit a larger turbo in there that seems less appealing all of a sudden. I was hoping the turbo would be good to 350rwhp or so. I will be curious to see if you are able to find a new compressor wheel for the T618Z that is effective. Good luck! They also modified part of the frame (or was it the firewall) to fit the turbo on that location. |
Originally Posted by RX8PR
English is not my first language...............
If you check my first post on this thread I tell every one about that, sometimes other members of the forum that speak Spanish write something on Spanish and I always answer them in my bad English just for respect to the other members that don't know Spanish. Manuel
Originally Posted by RX8PR
Demon,
The problem to try to bolt other turbo is space..........if you want to install other turbine it's better to make a custom manifold. We're thinking on change the actual propeller on the greddy turbo.............. Look the "yo-yo" that is installed on the other RX8 that is on the shop. My mechanic makes a custom manifold to install it............. Manuel The turbo I used is much larger than the turbo in the Greddy kit. Getting it in the small space without modifying the chassis was where I spent most of the time fabricating and fitting. http://www.mazdamaniac.com/images/rx...o/turbo_in.jpg |
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To install the G35 on the Blue one the mechanic modified the frame.
We can do this on my car but first we would try to change the propeller on the greddy turbo, it's not expensive! Manuel |
I believe this thread is more appropriate to post these comments and ask these questions so here they go...
I bought yesterdy my greddy turbo kit for last and some addons...In 10days max i ll have everything ready to install... The complete list: Greddy Turbo kit Greddy Oil pan Greddy Profec E0-1 Greddy Oil Catch Tank Greddy Bov Type Rs Unorthodox Racing Pulleys Emanage support tool and all the nessecary brakets... I already have greddy sp2 catback,revi intake adn canzoomer midp-4 catalytic system,rp short shifter and ms flywheel and i also have ms clutch-cover but not installed yet.. From what i have read the airinix except that is very ugly,is very low quality and not shield..So as far as revi is the best intake out there and fully shield and soon teh ram air addon will be available, i ll try to install revi with the turbo and then the ramair for maximum hp with my parts...It can't be worst than airinix...Right?? When we will be installing the project,we ll have a guy who makes exhausts and he is very good and we will tell him to make a custom tube to start from the intake and go to where airinix was supposed to attach...The question though is in what distance the bov must be isntalled from the instake?? How all these seem to you??what the experts believe??waste of time or good project?? After the turbo in more than 6-7months(i must collect some $$ :D ) i ll buy coilovers(tein+edfc or another brand)and grex 6-pot brakes and mazdaspeed radiator... Also the veilside bodykit(full front-rear bumpers-side skirts-hood)is going in my car next week so i ll have good airflow for the turbo and the temps....But what size mesh to install in the front bumper??With big holes for better flow?or with small holes?I m 90% percent over for the big holes in the mesh and i don't care for small rocks etc i ll be with my eyes wide open 24-7 to manage will all the coming rocks!!! :D :D :rolleyes: :p |
Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
The turbo I used is much larger than the turbo in the Greddy kit. Getting it in the small space without modifying the chassis was where I spent most of the time fabricating and fitting.
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Originally Posted by demon
Which turbo are you using Jeff? And answer your PM every once in a while ;)
The turbo is a Turbonetics built T3/T4 with a .63 hot side and a 54 wheel in a .50 on the cold side. Oil cooled with 360° race bearings. All of that info is in my custom turbo thread. |
I also have stopped getting my e-mail notices.
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^i think everyone has stoped getting them :(
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Originally Posted by GrRx8MaZdA
..So as far as revi is the best intake out there and fully shield and soon teh ram air addon will be available, i ll try to install revi with the turbo and then the ramair for maximum hp with my parts...It can't be worst than airinix...Right??
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^Nope
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Last thursday my car loss the boost from 11 psi to 5-7 psi,
I check all the rubber connections and everything looks Ok, I finded a a hose that was moved forward and put it back on the original position we drive the car but the problem of low boost still there.............. We put the car on the dyno to see if we can find something............... Another of the hoses was broken................. I really don't know what happens...............we're running higher boost than the factory greddy setting but I can't believe that this hoses can't handle it. Be aware of this! Manuel |
Which connecting hose is that for?
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www.hightempsilicone.com should cure your problem ;)
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Thank you guitarjunkie...........................
But I already installed a new one, of course of better quality! Manuel |
I just got my greddy turbo and i can't find the instructions on how to install it...PLease please if someone can help me fast,tell me..I need the instructions fast...I already told my dealer but we have 9hours difference in time..Different time zone..and i can't wait...
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www.turborx8.net
If you don't find there, use the search option of the rx8club.com you would find it... Manuel |
My luck...i found 2 links and both were down......anyone has them??
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I just make a web search and find the file on the following page:
http://www.wam.umd.edu/~greghess/rx8greedy.pdf Manuel |
thanks for all...i just print them....thanks
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Anyone have english instructions on how to install the greddy oil pan???I ve got the japan installation instruction and can't read a word....please help me...
Saturday i am going for the installation |
improvise! extreme situations require extreme measures ;)
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Originally Posted by GrRx8MaZdA
Anyone have english instructions on how to install the greddy oil pan???I ve got the japan installation instruction and can't read a word....please help me...
Saturday i am going for the installation Only remotely tricky part is getting the c-clip off the oil-level switch connector, but that's barely a challenge :) |
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