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10-14-2007, 02:51 PM
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lets do this! what do you think is the best based on price, ease of install, EMU software included, and parts needed to install (if any), and other things
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10-14-2007, 03:14 PM
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i cant believe you put the afsc on there and not the PTP, Esmeril, DNA which are actually in operation and have a price.
I will say the best turbo option will be the greddy with the mazsport upgrades and the gt series turbo.
however the esmeril turbo kit with the soon to be released ignition upgrade will put up numbers we have not seen before. and its priced atractively
I will say the best turbo option will be the greddy with the mazsport upgrades and the gt series turbo.
however the esmeril turbo kit with the soon to be released ignition upgrade will put up numbers we have not seen before. and its priced atractively
10-14-2007, 03:15 PM
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there's no one size fits all. right now all the top end kits max out around the same point due to ignition issues. So there isn't much to set them apart besides what you get with the kit. Thus the mazsport kits are the top dog in terms of what you get and performance. In the future, ignition issues will be worked out, and then we'll have a real horse power war, with a greater distance between the low and high end kits.
for bang for the buck, the greddy turbo is still king - and not just due to cost. It's also king because most of us have it, so there's a lot of information, and help available for it. We know it's weaknesses and the user community has found fixes for them. Whereas the PTP turbo looks good on paper, but you're basically on your own if you run into issues.
Overall, I think any TC or SC kit for the RX-8 will be a good choice, depending on what your needs and budget are. The only one I wouldn't recommend to anyone is the DNA, and that's an inherent flaw due to the SC type chosen for the kit, not because of issues with the hardware or vendor.
for bang for the buck, the greddy turbo is still king - and not just due to cost. It's also king because most of us have it, so there's a lot of information, and help available for it. We know it's weaknesses and the user community has found fixes for them. Whereas the PTP turbo looks good on paper, but you're basically on your own if you run into issues.
Overall, I think any TC or SC kit for the RX-8 will be a good choice, depending on what your needs and budget are. The only one I wouldn't recommend to anyone is the DNA, and that's an inherent flaw due to the SC type chosen for the kit, not because of issues with the hardware or vendor.
10-14-2007, 03:35 PM
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Not all of us think our personal choice is the best of the best. But best for each of us depends on our needs and budget.
I know which one you would be voting for, even before you did it... The pettit kit makes a nice little jump in power. I'm sure it feels pretty good vs stock, but with a price tag twice that of the greddy, and making far less hp and torque, I wouldn't recommend it unless the buyer really doesn't want a larger jump in power. We regularly see 210 - 250 tq at the wheels with the greddy, and not even 190 tq with the pettit. In the future if the pettit kit drops in price, and it includes the ECU reflash, I might reconsider my recommendation.
I know the standard retort on the greddy comparison vs the pettit stage 2 will eventually lead to the mention of the stage 3 SC. The problem with that is it's only an additional $1,000 for a larger turbo that drops in place of the one supplied by greddy (which was only meant to run at 6 psi), and thus you still end up far cheaper with the greddy kit, and by this point, still make far more power than the stage 3 could.
10-14-2007, 06:20 PM
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hahahaha, i will edit it as soon as i find out how, haha
10-14-2007, 06:39 PM
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10-14-2007, 07:43 PM
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Jeff, If you ever come down here, drop the link for that awesome Electric Supper Turbo System with Nawzz, or whatever it is called? That thing will make gains like no other!
10-14-2007, 08:36 PM
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Phil,
Not all of us think our personal choice is the best of the best. But best for each of us depends on our needs and budget.
I know which one you would be voting for, even before you did it... The pettit kit makes a nice little jump in power. I'm sure it feels pretty good vs stock, but with a price tag twice that of the greddy, and making far less hp and torque, I wouldn't recommend it unless the buyer really doesn't want a larger jump in power. We regularly see 210 - 250 tq at the wheels with the greddy, and not even 190 tq with the pettit. In the future if the pettit kit drops in price, and it includes the ECU reflash, I might reconsider my recommendation.
I know the standard retort on the greddy comparison vs the pettit stage 2 will eventually lead to the mention of the stage 3 SC. The problem with that is it's only an additional $1,000 for a larger turbo that drops in place of the one supplied by greddy (which was only meant to run at 6 psi), and thus you still end up far cheaper with the greddy kit, and by this point, still make far more power than the stage 3 could.
Not all of us think our personal choice is the best of the best. But best for each of us depends on our needs and budget.
I know which one you would be voting for, even before you did it... The pettit kit makes a nice little jump in power. I'm sure it feels pretty good vs stock, but with a price tag twice that of the greddy, and making far less hp and torque, I wouldn't recommend it unless the buyer really doesn't want a larger jump in power. We regularly see 210 - 250 tq at the wheels with the greddy, and not even 190 tq with the pettit. In the future if the pettit kit drops in price, and it includes the ECU reflash, I might reconsider my recommendation.
I know the standard retort on the greddy comparison vs the pettit stage 2 will eventually lead to the mention of the stage 3 SC. The problem with that is it's only an additional $1,000 for a larger turbo that drops in place of the one supplied by greddy (which was only meant to run at 6 psi), and thus you still end up far cheaper with the greddy kit, and by this point, still make far more power than the stage 3 could.
Now your going to tell me that my experience is not scientific or that they are not sized properly or I just do not understand. You may be right but this is my experience and trying to tell me that a turbo is superior is not going any where. I have had this discussion with MM several times. I'm sure the flaming will be prevalent but please remember you asked so I just answered.
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10-14-2007, 08:36 PM
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Just curious... why did you just post up all of your N/A mods and say that you wanted to stay N/A. Then after a good ribbing by some of the mombers, post up a FI opinion poll?
Good luck with whatever you choose. I placed my vote.
Good luck with whatever you choose. I placed my vote.
