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BigTurbo74 09-30-2010 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by FungsterRacing (Post 3731958)
Is this a stable kit?

On paper its by far the best system, but you will have to ask around to some owners;

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-aftermarket-performance-modifications-23/nrs-ceramic-apex-seals-1-piece-oem-height-200561/

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-specific-performance-mods-97/my-new-install-project-176409/

Brettus 09-30-2010 03:00 PM

/\ Yeah it looks like a great setup . But like you say the proof is in the pudding and we aint seen any pudding yet ;)

09factors car is 16 months into the build and is still not finished ......

Mawnee 09-30-2010 03:32 PM

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BigTurbo74 09-30-2010 03:46 PM

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/...4248684?ref=ts

Looks like another in the works, I have seen more people around here with their setup, just can't find the links.

One big plus is its setup for an AP.

Brettus 09-30-2010 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by Mawnee (Post 3732515)

speaking of pudding dissapointments - sold your turbo yet ? :hahano:

Mawnee 09-30-2010 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 3732661)
speaking of pudding dissapointments - sold your turbo yet ? :hahano:

Nah, just a bunch of lowballers and tirekickers. Epic, recordbreaking renesis horsepower...just collecting dust in my garage. :dunno:

RotaryMachineRx 09-30-2010 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by BigTurbo74 (Post 3731262)
Agreed! Now if you want a nice setup go here;

http://www.turblown.net/store/


What are the engine bay temps like with this kit? Doesn't having the airbox undertray removed decrease radiator performance?




Fungster I have the GReddy kit and I live like 2 hrs from you. I havent started the car yet as I am missing the IC outlet elbow from my kit (BHR is handling the matter epically) but everything is installed and I can tell you that if you have any experience working on a vehicle you should be able to handle the install no problem. Took me about 5 days to install everything.

09Factor 09-30-2010 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by FungsterRacing (Post 3731958)
Is this a stable kit?

I don't see why it shouldn't be stable. It's really the tune that makes or breaks the system.


Originally Posted by BigTurbo74 (Post 3732419)
On paper its by far the best system, but you will have to ask around to some owners;

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=200561

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=176409

Paper is nice, but in my case it looks better in my engine bay.


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 3732447)
/\ Yeah it looks like a great setup . But like you say the proof is in the pudding and we aint seen any pudding yet ;)

09factors car is 16 months into the build and is still not finished ......

:bsflag:
Brett, The build of the Turbo system is finished and has been for close to 2 months now.
The issue why I don't drive it is with the drilled out siphon assembly recommended by a member of our FI'd 8 community. Shame on me for taking his premature advice. :wallbash:
Of course you knew this, so quit giving wrong information about my build.:nono:


Originally Posted by RotaryMachineRx (Post 3732808)
What are the engine bay temps like with this kit? Doesn't having the airbox undertray removed decrease radiator performance?

Don't know that just yet about the engine bay temps. I have wrapped nothing yet. So I'll do time without wrap and time with DP, then up pipe, and finally the header.


The removal of the OEM airbox tray frees up quite a bit of air flow path restriction. So on my prior install Greddy kit it did help in bring the coolant temps back down quicker.

FungsterRacing 09-30-2010 06:46 PM

RotaryMachine - You live in Saskatoon, correct? We should meet up sometime, I would like to take a look at your setup.

I have never installed a turbo system before, and initially the Greddy was my selection, as long as I can get 300+rwhp out of it without going as high as 16psi.

RotaryMachineRx 09-30-2010 07:25 PM

^ You wont hit 300whp on the GReddy.... you'll need an upgrade for that and at the moment I'm still waiting for a proven upgrade to come back onto the market (MM's GT3071R) or something new to show up. I'm aiming to get up around 260 and then possibly around 280 with some more mods and a BC.

Once I finally get the car started I will still need to data log and wait for some tunes from MM, so I'm hoping it isnt parked for too much longer as I don't winter drive it and time is limited... and all this warm weather without the car is killing me haha

zoom44 09-30-2010 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by FungsterRacing (Post 3729946)
SC sounds are kinda gay,


excuse me?

FungsterRacing 09-30-2010 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by zoom44 (Post 3732955)
excuse me?

Don't take it offensively. It was just my way of saying I prefer the turbo sound over the sc sound. (From the ones I have heard).

Don't worry. I didn't mean to offend anyone.

reno 09-30-2010 09:32 PM

Since nobody has brought this up yet, I'm just going to add that turblowns kits, sfr, and the esmeril kit, which is the one I am actually in favor of, are all big pretty shiny top mount turbo kits. The greddy, on the other hand, is a smaller snail buried deep in the abyss of your engine. But thats the ONLY thing keeping me from considering the greddy.

Im looking for a show car, which involves a turbo people can actually see, but also something I could dd. I do know though that with the right knowledge, the greddy kit is more than capable. There is more than enough evidence of that on this site, it's up to the person tuning the kit.

If you are willing to put the time in to tune your turbo, go for it. If you just want power, a supercharger might be an easier alternative for you.

PS- now that the AP is gone, what ecu are people using these days?

TeamRX8 09-30-2010 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by FungsterRacing (Post 3733004)
Don't take it offensively. It was just my way of saying I prefer the turbo sound over the sc sound. (From the ones I have heard).

Don't worry. I didn't mean to offend anyone.


No more than anyone who still says nigger, kike, wop, nip, chink, etc.

At a minimum you look like an insensitive/immature dumbass, worst case an ignorant bigot

zoom44 09-30-2010 10:43 PM

knowing you did offend would have been the right moment to apolgize

reno- the cobb is still available

TeamRX8 09-30-2010 10:46 PM

Apparently you can still purchase an AP for the RX-8 through mazdamaniac.com

PhillipM 09-30-2010 10:47 PM

Gay is a more than acceptable descriptive word in the english language, it's only relatively recently that it's been bastardised to refer to homosexuals, although obvisouly in that tense it could be deemed offensive.

TeamRX8 09-30-2010 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillipM (Post 3733114)
Gay is a more than acceptable descriptive word in the english language, it's only relatively recently that it's been bastardised to refer to homosexuals, although obvisouly in that tense it could be deemed offensive.

https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1285905535

FungsterRacing 09-30-2010 11:02 PM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 3733108)
No more than anyone who still says nigger, kike, wop, nip, chink, etc.

At a minimum you look like an insensitive/immature dumbass, worst case an ignorant bigot

Hey, I was just saying My own opinion. IF I was to say "Chink" then I'm meaning to diss a race obviously. I'm stating my own opinion, and there is nothing wrong with that.

FungsterRacing 09-30-2010 11:03 PM


Originally Posted by zoom44 (Post 3733110)
knowing you did offend would have been the right moment to apolgize

reno- the cobb is still available


If it offended to you enough degree to appreciate an apology, then sorry for dissing sc's sounds. Just not my thing.

FungsterRacing 09-30-2010 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 3733123)

Are you calling me dumb?

Junirol 10-01-2010 01:03 AM

everyone has their own opinions on things, choose what you like best, just do the research. I personally like Twin screw petite S/C. free spining, its powerband is more linear, provides air to intake manifold oppose exhaust manifold. There are downsides too but for my purposes S/C would be good for me.

arghx7 10-01-2010 01:20 AM

supercharged rotary sounds cool until you spend all that money and still get stomped by an STi with a downpipe

Phil's 8 10-01-2010 08:14 AM

I have been expecting this thread to degrade into the flaming abyss between the Supercharger peeps and the Turbo peeps. Surprisingly it has not yet fallen.

What ever good you can say about either way to go FI has detractors. The OP has already stated that he does not like the sound of the S/C so why even bother considering it - he would never be happy.

I chose the s/c because of my past experiences with both forms of FI. Oh ya I do happen to like the sound also.

Brettus 10-01-2010 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by 09Factor (Post 3732860)
Brett, The build of the Turbo system is finished and has been for close to 2 months now.
The issue why I don't drive it is with the drilled out siphon assembly recommended by a member of our FI'd 8 community. Shame on me for taking his premature advice. :wallbash:
Of course you knew this, so quit giving wrong information about my build.:nono:
.

Was not meaning to misinform .
To me finished means you are tuned and running with no issues but I guess it is harsh to imply that has anything to do with the kit - sorry man .


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