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RENESIS_NEENJA 01-23-2006 09:49 AM

I'm sooo jealous!!! you guys are the luckiest! :beerchug:

OfficerFarva 01-23-2006 10:41 AM

jealous is an understatement ;)

Roadstar 01-23-2006 11:23 PM

how is teh reliability of the swap?

RX8PR 01-24-2006 05:06 AM

Reliability would depend on the setting that you whants on the car.


A few members asked for a list of parts to make a swap, I was talking with Robert and we agree that every car would be different, of course that you need a wastegate, intercooler, BOV, etc but there is a lot of details like fittings, hoses that would be different for each swap.
What we're doin with my car is when He needs something I just buy it!
Of course that Robert and I try to find the best prices but you can't make this thinking
on a low budget.......


Manuel

rgonza 01-25-2006 06:30 PM

RX8 6 Speed Tranny weak Parts
 
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Manuel

that's the pic of an another weak part of RX8 6 speed tranny found on my car during a hard lauch "trust bearing retainer" this happen when you goin above 18 PSI of boost. And the pic of housing oil injection adapter.

Rgonza :naughty:

RX8PR 01-25-2006 06:44 PM

Robert,

The oil hoses looks better than the factory one's.........................

You need to make a better bearing retainer to handle those 18 psi of boost,

"Wiso" extimated 800 hp! :rock: :ylsuper:
RX8 rules.....................................

Manuel

Roadstar 01-27-2006 01:06 AM

may i ask wat are some of the knowlege that the mechanic must have in order to do the swap in a reliable way???
and are you guys looking forward to do similar swaps for the bros on rx8club for a charge? i hope some info can be shared^^^%^^^^^^^^^^

RX8PR 01-27-2006 06:55 PM

For anyone in Puerto Rico "Wiso" can put the 20B engine on the RX8 for $1,700.00
if you whant to do some port and install all the inside of the engine new like seals, springs, etc. He would do it for another $700.00 aprox. You would need to buy all the parts.........
He do it all this in aprox 3 weeks working only in the afternoons, after he came from his regular job.

Robert is really making a big favor to me because he don't work as a mechanic, I means that this is only a hobbie for him. Of course, he have all the knowledge and all the equipments to works as a mechanic.
He tell me that he is doin this for me because he whants
to see another 3 rotor RX8 in Puerto Rico.

I think that send the cars back/forward to Puerto Rico would be the big problem..........
probably someone in the US can make the swap.

But by otherhand no one's is goin to do it like a puertorican!
I'm so proud of all the rotary mechanic on the Island,
the fastest rotary cars are here!

Manuel

rotary_extreme 01-27-2006 07:48 PM

I was talking with rgonza 'cuz im willing to ship my car to puerto rico and get the engine swap... but we havent talked about prices can u help me with this? can u guys get all the parts needed to make the engine swap?
si queres que hablemos mas detalladamanete porfavor escribeme estoy de verdad interesado en hacer esto... he ahorrado mi dinero para poder hace algo como esto pero tengo que ver si de verdad me alcanza...incluyendo la mano de obra que uds. decidan cobrar... porfavor si es posible realizar este proyecto contactame

Nemesis8 01-27-2006 08:36 PM

I have seen this part first hand on another RX8. This part failed and the owner went to the dealer and they said it was abuse and voided his warranty. It broke in the same place on a normally aspirated Renesis.

I'm glad to see you guys testing the castings of various parts. I was told that this part was weak by the little birdie I know.



Originally Posted by rgonza
Manuel

that's the pic of an another weak part of RX8 6 speed tranny found on my car during a hard lauch "trust bearing retainer" this happen when you goin above 18 PSI of boost. And the pic of housing oil injection adapter.

Rgonza :naughty:


R.P.M. 01-27-2006 10:34 PM

I dont want to "thread crap" but I have been talking to Rgonza about doing this swap. He reffered a fourm member to me and we are working out a price for the swap. I'm very interested in doing more engine swaps to the RX-8's. If anyone is interested just shoot me a pm! I'd be glad to discuss pricing for any kind of engine swaps......just as long as its still rotary ;)

BTW, keep the pics coming Rgonza!!

RX8PR 01-28-2006 07:26 AM

Probably all the parts are $12,500.00 aprox.........................been conservative and without labor.

The big concern is that I really don't know exactly how to deal with the people on the "aduana" talking about taxes, usually every car that enter to the island need to pay taxes and is a lot of money. We need to figure out how to enter the car as a "show car" or something like that, that came for special event and they would give you a special permit to have the car a few days on the island and then is goin back to the USA.

I have experience working with importing, on my business I import like 8 vanloads per month. I have a broker and a lot of friends that can help me to figure out this.

But first, anyone interested need to have all the money to do this...........................
I'm goin to see Roberet tomorrow,
If Robert deside to do this I'm 100% with him,
but he's the man.......................he have the final word.

Manuel

RX8PR 01-28-2006 05:09 PM

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Here are some pictures that I taked today....................

All the intercooler pipes are finished and the radiator

is already installed. The water pump is also ready.



I drive Robert car today and it was so smoth, no backfires

no big noise (this car have a catalytic) no overheat, Reliability is like a

"factory car" exept that in every shift the tires scream.............

GREAT CAR!

Manuel

rgonza 01-29-2006 07:13 PM

ECM Installation pics
 
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Microtech LT 12s Installation pics :)

rgonza 01-29-2006 07:21 PM

Oil filter relocation base
 
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Oil filter relocation and oil metering pump braided hose istallation pis :)

R.P.M. 01-29-2006 07:59 PM

Robert, is that the stock 20B water pump? Mine looks a little different.

Looks great!!

rgonza 01-29-2006 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by R.P.M.
Robert, is that the stock 20B water pump? Mine looks a little different.

Looks great!!

No this one is from twin turbo FD 1994 , you will need from Fd water pump, water pump housing, water pump pulley, and 20b alternator ajustable bracket. and renesis two crank dampers,(alternator and A/C Pulleys)
Regard
Rgonza

R.P.M. 01-29-2006 10:35 PM

Why would there be a need for the FD water pump?

rgonza 01-30-2006 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by R.P.M.
Why would there be a need for the FD water pump?


because the factory 20B water pump and housing will not provide sufficient room for turbo installation and you would not find remplacement in th US.

OneEvilRx8 01-30-2006 08:49 PM

how long b-4 this bad BOY is done and ready to run?

R.P.M. 01-30-2006 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by rgonza
because the factory 20B water pump and housing will not provide sufficient room for turbo installation and you would not find remplacement in th US.


Hehe...yeah that makes perfect sense now!!

N20SA22C 01-31-2006 02:56 AM

Wow. So nice to see a very fast streetable RX-8 for a "Reasonable" price. I wish I had the fabrication skills you have. Very nice work. I always loved PR's rotaries, man can you guys build em. I live near Mexico and I wish they loved rotaries as much as you guys do so I could go south and get some incredible work done! I envy you so much right now.

Kyle Lancaster

RX8PR 01-31-2006 07:18 PM

Evil,

I was at Robert house this afternoon and he is working so fast.
He have plans to start the engine this weekend............


Manuel

rgonza 01-31-2006 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by OneEvilRx8
how long b-4 this bad BOY is done and ready to run?

Evil , maybe for this weeked i going to start the engine and make some little run test. How's going your RX8 3 Rotor project?

Regards
rgonza :)

OneEvilRx8 02-01-2006 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by rgonza
Evil , maybe for this weeked i going to start the engine and make some little run test. How's going your RX8 3 Rotor project?

Regards
rgonza :)

I’ve been talking to RPM, about the project and all, and what I want to get done and archive, but I’m thinking with god's willing to start the project sometime in about 8 weeks or so, I want to get all the money together b-4 I start something I can get done immediately. I’m that kind of a guy if I’m not ready for something I don't like to get in it. But I’m very excited to get this going for my self. Thanks for the referral by the way.....

:ylsuper: Evil


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