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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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Cool! Count me in for the upgrade of both units. :D
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Hskr8
actually, this weekend is the last time I am taking her out for a drive... going on jack stands then, so as not to develop a plat spot on the tires.

Not to say putting your car up on stands isint a good idea....but,

I had my RX8 stored for three months+ and had no flat spotting. From my understanding, newer radial tires do not suffer from flat spotting like tires did many years ago.

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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 03:26 PM
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For all who are looking for the Nav hidden menus - this is old but I keep seeing people ask for it. One more time.

Thanks agan to who ever had the free time to figure this stuff out in the first place.
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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by willhave8
For all who are looking for the Nav hidden menus - this is old but I keep seeing people ask for it. One more time.

Thanks agan to who ever had the free time to figure this stuff out in the first place.

What screen do you do Backdoor 1, 2, & 3 on?


Code:
Backdoor 1: 

Up, Up, Up, Down, Down, Down, Up, Up

Backdoor 2: 

Up, Up, Down, Down

Backdoor 3: 

Up, Up, Up, Down, Down, Down, Up, Down

 
There's yet a different menu screen as well that gives a more accurate 
text reading, but still not perfect:

1. Open the menu
2. Choose "setup menu"
3. Choose "system information"
4. Choose "version"
5. Push the joystick forward 3 times
6. Push the joystick rearward 3 times
7. Push the joystick forward 2 times
8. Select the second menu option- something like Vehicle Sensors 

This screen displays vehicle speed in km/h, voltage reading, and the gyro 
output voltage. I was toying with this on the way home and quickly realized 
this isn't GPS measured speed, but input from the vehicles speed sensors.
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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 03:48 PM
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Sorry again the information below was stolen from another post....

"Ask and you shall receive. Enjoy:

From the System Setup | Version Information page:
Backdoor #1: up, up, down, down

Backdoor #2 (System Analysis):
up, up, up, down, down, down, up, down

Backdoor #3 (NAVI ECU Info Menu):
up, up, up, down, down, down, up, up

Of course you should be very careful in there as you can potentially render your NAVI useless."
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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 08:55 PM
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Be careful of the blank screen option. If you trigger this, the screen will go white and stay white. In that case, don't panic by pushing random buttons... just restart the car.
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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by thew
its pretty much all here ..

just read above .. but its not a map update.. its a Firmware upgrade so the unit will run faster and better. It will give you faster screen loads, Better Text entry, You can turn off the Voice from the map window, you get a better split screen and the System announces Freeway names.
Price is $50.00 and it takes about 1 day to turn around once i get the unit.
same with the HU upgrade.

To upgrade both units Head Unit and Nav DVD cost $75.00
it is better resolution too
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Boozehound
I definitely would've paid a reasonable amount ~$30-50 for the update. But there's no way to obtain an update without the aforementioned hoop-jumping. Furthermore, I don't see any reason that the dealers don't have a copy of the software and just update the older cars that come in, while they're in the warranty period. The cost of 1.5 minutes time would certainly be worth all the good will it garnered with their customers. Hell, most software I buy is supported (updates and all) within a reasonable amount of time (3-4 years), and updates are included. To me, it's like I'm just trying to recover the cost of being an "early adopter." When resale comes up in a few years, why should a later 2004 have more value than my car? Just think of the upgrades that I would've missed by sitting on my a$$ - AC amplifier, M reflash (it wasn't always mandatory service), insulated cupholder area, new oil pan and optical sensor, and so on.
Fast-forward to February '05. I just got back from the dealership after my 30K service, and was told by the service tech that they were informed in a Mazda training session that the updates will not be performed. I have to go to NavTech directly, and for a price, they will send me an upgrade disc, which I apparently have to return to them. He didn't sound real sure about the process, but he definitely thought it was a raw deal, especially for us pre-order folks. I'l be contacting Mazda customer service about this. It's completely ridiculous that a 5-minute process can't be done as a courtesy. Why should my '04 model year be running older software than other '04 models? I'm pretty pissed off about it.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by khoney
It's completely ridiculous that a 5-minute process can't be done as a courtesy. Why should my '04 model year be running older software than other '04 models? I'm pretty pissed off about it.
Amen. It was a $2000 option. There is no reason I can see that some '04 owners were given better firmware than other '04 owners.
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Old May 3, 2005 | 01:49 PM
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Sorry to ressurect this thread but I just got my second RX-8 last week which was a very old 2004 RX-8 (build date from June 2003) and it DEFINITELY has the older navigation system software/firmware because there's no Mazda logo screen that starts up when I activate the nav, takes longer to load screens than my 6 year old computer, and it's a pain in the *** to enter information with this thing. Also there's no "split screen" mode or whatever

What am I going to have to do down at the dealerships to get one of them to update to the latest firmware? Did all of you that had the old firmware like me eventually get yours updated or are some of you still using the old one?
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Old May 3, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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MAzda will do nothing..
you will have to send it to us for upgrade.. or live with it ..
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Old May 3, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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I thought you were stopping the upgrades, Thew, at the end of 2004. Same deal still applies?
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Old May 3, 2005 | 03:00 PM
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just for a vaction .. same price , bat chanellle..
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 09:54 AM
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I just got off the phone with Mazda North America (1-800-222-5500) and they say that the NAV Operational Software Upgrade (not maps) will be sent out by Mazda to the people who need it. The map upgrades will have to be purchased through NAVTEQ, but are not available as of yet. I received an email from NAVTEQ stating that the upgrade should be available around the end of Sept. We shall see though!
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by mrsjacksonrx8
I just got off the phone with Mazda North America (1-800-222-5500) and they say that the NAV Operational Software Upgrade (not maps) will be sent out by Mazda to the people who need it. The map upgrades will have to be purchased through NAVTEQ, but are not available as of yet. I received an email from NAVTEQ stating that the upgrade should be available around the end of Sept. We shall see though!
Thanks for the info... are they sending the firmware upgrade out to people who complain, or to everyone with an older VIN#/NAV unit?
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by mrsjacksonrx8
I just got off the phone with Mazda North America (1-800-222-5500) and they say that the NAV Operational Software Upgrade (not maps) will be sent out by Mazda to the people who need it. The map upgrades will have to be purchased through NAVTEQ, but are not available as of yet. I received an email from NAVTEQ stating that the upgrade should be available around the end of Sept. We shall see though!
muhahahahahaha...more than a year ago in June Navteq and Mazda said the disc would be for sale August of 2004 then they bumped it to September of 2004...where are we now...hmmmmmmmmmm August of 2005!!!!!!!!!!


START CALLING MAZDA...GIVE THEM THE BIG FU!
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 03:26 PM
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Still some serious decipton going on here..
The Upgrade requires more than a CD full of Code.. This is just the way it is.
The MAp..Yea they said that last April.

Trust me folks the new map is not all that Hot.. Its not like the system does anything new. You just have some streets that were not there before. IN my area i have a bout 3 that they added.. Yes I have a copy of that new map disk! and no i cant copy it or give it to you. But IT is a real thing.. I just dont understand why they are not releasing it.
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by thew
Still some serious decipton going on here..
The Upgrade requires more than a CD full of Code.. This is just the way it is.
The MAp..Yea they said that last April.

Trust me folks the new map is not all that Hot.. Its not like the system does anything new. You just have some streets that were not there before. IN my area i have a bout 3 rodes that they added.. Yes I have a copy of that new map disk! and no i cant copy it or give it to you. But IT is a real thing.. I just dont understand why they are not releasing it.
get ready for lots of emails...now that the cat is out of the bag (Kaos is out of the bag! haha :D)
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by thew
Still some serious decipton going on here..
The Upgrade requires more than a CD full of Code.. This is just the way it is.
Then why were there copies of the firmware upgrade DVD at certain dealerships last year, and several people got their units upgraded until Mazda put a stop to it?
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by G8rboy
Then why were there copies of the firmware upgrade DVD at certain dealerships last year, and several people got their units upgraded until Mazda put a stop to it?
oh boy this is going to start another debate like the huge one of July 2004 :p

essentially there are two different upgrades involved I believe was the consensus...one firmware based, by disc (a few of us) and one hardware plus firmware needed (most of us).

I personally had to have the hardware upgraded (May 2003 build)...I knew a guy at my dealership who made it easy since the dealerships didn't have the capability to upgrade the hardware only the firmware by disc...and swapped my NAVdrive unit for a brand new drive August of 2004.

This difference is apparent in the varying OS releases and the significant improvement between the first manufactured 8s and the more recently manufactured 8s (resolution upgraded, speed upgraded, etc. while the more recent is simply the keyboard style input and some other minor features)
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 05:45 PM
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I called Mazda. They said that I needed the updated firmware prior to loading the new maps (duh!). He said that they hope to have these mailed out to the customers before the end of August. We will see. Sounded like we could probably share firmware disks if no hardware upgrades are needed.
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 06:08 PM
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how the **** can I get one of those I bought the rx 8 without the GPS how do I get one
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by boyaabiatch
how the **** can I get one of those I bought the rx 8 without the GPS how do I get one
You could ******* trade your ******* car in on one that is ******* equipped with the ******* GPS option.
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by clyde
You could ******* trade your ******* car in on one that is ******* equipped with the ******* GPS option.
******* great idea!
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