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Old 02-02-2005, 09:34 PM
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Neons led underbody interior and all that good ish...

hey i want to install some underbody neons and interior neons for the feet... i was planning on getting the pilot switchs to power them on.. also know as safety toggle switches. (pic) and i was wondering where could you mount these?? i was thinking by the light dimmer ans the dcs? controll since i want 4 switches and move those into the coin tray right underneath... what do you guys think? those who have neons or leds where do you mount your switch?

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lolol.... most on this forum arent a fan of what you are looking for... expect a boatload of flaming to begin any minute....
Old 02-02-2005, 09:57 PM
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oh well. im asian i have this thing for ricey kinda stuff.. FLAME ON BROTHAS!
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I'd get the color morphics they come with a remote and have like 2million colors or some such thing.
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im gonna get mine off this site... i want the blaze kit has good reviews also the owner of the site is really nice to work with

http://www.oznium.com/underbody-kits...2fc656cdf53692

cathodes for interior are mad good too 6.49 for 2.... cheap as anything.
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hmm got an idea... what about the switches in the sunglass case? that thing is so useless to me i have oakleys and they dont fit.
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nah, I'd put it in the compartment of the center console that you have to pull and open to get to..You know what I'm talking about write?or put it in the change holder that's on your left hand side by the steering wheel.
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Originally Posted by LiL BenNy
im gonna get mine off this site... i want the blaze kit has good reviews also the owner of the site is really nice to work with

http://www.oznium.com/underbody-kits...2fc656cdf53692

cathodes for interior are mad good too 6.49 for 2.... cheap as anything.
Um... wow.

How durable are these?
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if you do ICELED, you can just use the remote. I'll take pictures of where the sensors are located tonight. So I'll be able to give more input tomorrow, and I'll post the pics on my site late tonight.

In the meantime, here are some pics of the lights... (Also, note that the car still has a ways to go till completion, so there has been some work to the lights, since these pictures, and there still some more to get done)
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Color Morphics are what I have on my car and I love em. The system is the most advanced controlling system on the market for lighting.
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Originally Posted by z00m-z00m
Color Morphics are what I have on my car and I love em. The system is the most advanced controlling system on the market for lighting.
I wholly disagree with that and say ICELED is the most advanced. But I'm not gonna argue, but rather say, do the reading yourself at http://iceled.co.uk Or, if you bought them from OZNIUM, (who carries all brands) you could even ask Phil. Color Morphics are good, don't get me wrong on that, but not the best.
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I said its the most advanced controlling system which it is, I play with hardware all day long. Out of all the items on the market Color Morphics has the most potential for any expandability. Its not the cheapest, hell its one of the most expensive. :P

Then again I know some of the inside stuff thats being developed and tested for color morphics. IceLED is cool dont get me wrong, its a great system but hardware and expandability its top on my list.

Remote gives much more control also. In anycase I hope that the more LED lighting systems that come on to the market will make the units come down in price and advance technology with digital lighting
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Can ColorMorphics address each and every 'pixel' on the tubes?
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Welcome to the RX8Club philbish What kind of RX-8 do you own?
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Originally Posted by philbish
Can ColorMorphics address each and every 'pixel' on the tubes?
No! Which is what ICELED can do. That's the key difference between ICELED and colormorphics. Colormorphics requires each tube or light devide to be the same color, which is why the tubes come in sections of 10" or so I believe. Thus, you place many, many tubes around the vehicle and they color change and fade between tubes.

ICELED allows per pixel control, thus though you may have a 1', 2', 3' of 4' tube, you can control individual pixels within the tube....thus 1 tube can show multiple colors.

Also, expandability on ICELED is incredible. They have many different types of lighting souces for use in different area of the car, as well as multiple types of controlling devices. There are flood lights, spot lights, tiny "gems" the size of an overhead lamp, and each can be corrodinated with all the others, or controlled individually. Out of the box, all control is through a handheld remote control.

Finally, ICELED has the ultimate ace up its sleeve in conrollability. They are planning on releasing a bluetooth link that will allow you to control the lighting, on a per-pixel level, via a bluetooth connected computer. (It already has been created, but has been being thouroughly tested for the past couple months.) The design of this is to allow you to perform your own control of the lighting via your own designed program. The other cool part about this is that given your own design, you could link multiple cars.

PS - you get what you pay for...while a colormorphics underbody kit will set you back a hefty $420, an ICELED underbody kit will set you back $830

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Thanks for the welcome zoom-zoom. I do not have any RX-8

The colormorphics starter pack @ $420 gives you 6 ten inch tubes. Add the extra tubes and extra cables and you are well over the cost of the Iceled kit.

So, you DONT get what you pay for
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yeah im not really in the job field and i dont have 800+ to blow on neons tho i do wish i could get the iceleds...

i want like 4 switches to the coin tray on the left wouldnt be an option.. i was planning to move the light dimming control and the dsc control in the cointray. put the 4 switches where those 2 were +2 dummy switches (is that what they're called) then in the middle console where the cig lighter is.. planning on putting like a bass control ****.... any one know of a good one i can use with JL audio 500/1 amp? if possible?

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Just get the JL audio RBC-1 , that's what I use on my 500/1 amp. I placed the **** in the center console by the cupholders. Another member, xrider, installed his on the dummy button next to the DSC.
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As far as a neon underbody kit, I wanted to get something but not too expensive or too big. I decided to go with the varad suspension lighting kit in a red color. It's 4 1watt LEDs. I got it on ebay for $130 and it was fairly easy to install. It has a remote to set it to stay on, pulse, and strobe to different patterns, also can strobe to the beat of the music. Couple of pictures of it installed.
My camera isn't good in the dark, the LED's are really brighter than the picture shows.
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Of pixels and such...

Quoting: philbish:-> Can ColorMorphics address each and every 'pixel' on the tubes?

We (at Tireflys, manufacturer of ColorMorphics) do own an RX8, even though it's a show car more than a daily drive. It still gets around though. "Z-Z".

Every 10" MorphStick is it's own "pixel-like" device. (Pixel-like, becasue a pixel is defined as the smallest, idependently addressable element of an entire picture, ad hoc) So, yes. However, if you count the 27 LED's in each MorphStick and (incorrectly) assume that it means 9 pixels, then no - as that is not the case. A MorphStick is a continuous linear array with considerable overlap in the light output and no deadbands in the beam. Some clever users have taken the time to line up the sticks in their design with just the right amount of distance between sticks so that they effectively had the output of 40 sticks due to the color overlap from stick-edge to stick edge, creating an even finer gradient of color.

Our longer MorphBar has multiple equvalents of MorphSticks in it, with different LED and drive technologies, and (in similar fashion to some of our other competitors) has waited for those technologies to become stable before flooding the marketplace with more product. (If anyone was by CES this year, you probably would have been amazed at the quantity of "low-budget" lighting being shown from asian distributors!) The MorphPod array gets a little whacky - older lighting philosophies need not apply. All the same, different light engines have different applications and thus yield different results. Different manufacturers have different design styles and it's up to you to realise what product works best in your application - one product may work better in your custom design than another.

If you really want to explore high-pixel-counts, far above anything currently available at the retail level, investigate $1000 for a small 800x600 DLP video projector, and together with your video-editing software, photo retouch software, DVD-authoring software and a large amount of time, you too can talk to almost half-a-million pixels at 16.7 mil color depth. It has been done. It does look stunning. Except for the video projector hanging off the side of the truck. :D

In regards to Bluetooth, we too (a product of the "me too" movement) had considered wireless RF technologies for remote networking of vehicles. Is it currently on the roadmap at this very instant? Nope. (In fact, it was dropped from the design plan in favor of something else.) Don't get me wrong - I use BT a lot - my phone, headset, handheld and laptop all crash equally well from it. :D There's also a design philosophy that is beginning to be troublesome to us in regards to cross-product compatibility; my phone is a good example - while the original manufacturer filled it with all sorts of goodies, the carrier crippled a lot of them out. If I, as a designer built a platform that depended upon the use of those "goodies", I would have in fact, created a platform now rendered useless by another party. Unfortunately, the scenario isn't limited to just cellular carriers. The solution is to either mandate certain authorized accessories, or make your own that are not compatible with anything else. Either way is a compromise, each with its own set of challenges. All the same, from one engineering group to another - kudos to ICELED.

Ok, rant over. Time to sit back and enjoy the colored lights.....ahh the pretty colored lights..... soothing.....


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Originally Posted by ColorMorphics
All the same, different light engines have different applications and thus yield different results. Different manufacturers have different design styles and it's up to you to realise what product works best in your application - one product may work better in your custom design than another.
Perfectly said! Do the research and avoid all the asian knockoffs that are using other higher quality manufacturers pictures, literature, etc. (Again, you get what you pay for!)
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Thanks for the input Ted on the tech specs.
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im not too big of a fan of the color morphing systme i was playing around with them at best buy.... i wasnt too impressed with the quality....
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OK, I nabbed some pictures last night of the 2 remote sensors for my ICELED lighting. The first remote sensor is in the coinbox. There is also a switch next to the remote sensor that is used to control the in-vent lighting.

The second remote sensor is located in the glovebox. Also surrounding the remote sensor is a Firewire hub, USB 2.0 Hub, and 8in1 media card reader. The iPod will also be located in the glovebox.

Hope this gives you some more ideas.
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GAH! thats friggen sweet i love your car

ps adrian i cant seem to stop loving your car more and more you have like everything i want lol..


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