RKM

Just got off the phone with Navteq and they have pushed back the DVD update to October, possibly November. They also said this DVD will not only be a mapping update but an operational software update as well (for those of us that haven't "zapped" our existing Nav to get it updated).
:D

G8rboy

Thanks for the news... I guess I'll keep waiting

flyboyindy

LOL....Ill believe it when I see it. I have been occasionally calling these people for the last 6 months... first it was June....then July.... I called 3 days ago, and they said mid september.... now youre saying October or November.... *rolls my eyes* I cant believe they just dont make a blanket statement saying... you will get it when you get it! lol...

irfan

do you know if this will cost extra? the current DVD doesnt list the street i live on, and it doesnt have the recently completely highway right next to me

G8rboy

Yes it will- somewhere between $200-$300 based on other upgrade prices. I think it stinks that Mazda doesn't subsidize these at least somewhat, especially considering the map data we currently have is quite old.

Helmano

I called about two weeks ago and they told me sometime in September lol. By the time this update disc comes out all of the maps on it will be old again...Oh Well im sure it will be worth the wait if it contains the map updates & the software update too.

truemagellen

Please read my next post for a clarification of this:

ok sorry to break it to you guys but there is no firmware update for those with A very old build...there is an entirely new system needed as there is a faster processor and I believe more memory (I'll try to post the different vers of the system from the european sites)

I have a may 03 build and I came in complaing about how slow it is...the freezes, etc and a mazda service rep was there and said mine is working like crap compared to the one in the 8 he drives...so they ordered a new one...yes an entirely new navigation unit (the one next to the back seats)...


oh and here are the changes I see having the new one (NEW UNIT WITH NEW SOFTWARE):
-split screen at turns
-faster interface (startup is much shorter now)
-new splash screen
-keyboard style inputing
-approximately double (maybe a little less then x2) resolution (not mentioned on the posts) and this is a huge difference (and no they didn't swap out the lcd)

flyboyindy

Truemagellan,
I got all those changes that you mentioned and they didnt even touch the unit. Where are you getting your information from?

truemagellen

sorry I did not explain well...I re-read what I posted and it complicated things:

ok...this is my take on the whole navigation upgrade thing...there are 2 different units...one is for those with a very very old build date (ie mine which was may 2003) then the newer unit which has higher resolution output, is MUCH faster and is what most people have in there cars now

then there is a firmware update as well...that addresses the split screen...keyboard style inputing and better voice guidance...this update (from a disk) allows those with the newer UNIT to have the NEWER operating software for the unit which makes the content disk (map disk...which is the same for all units and will be updated this fall) data more functional

sorry about my confusing post before...I'll change it

hope this answers the 'big debate' over hardware update or software update...both sides are correct

flyboyindy

Cool... Oh yeah...just for ***** and giggles... I called Navteq one more time today, and they said the RX-8 disc will be released in September, but the release date is not final yet. Go figure

mazradiodoc

There is only ONE model Nav DVD player CN-VM4360A. The update (software) will update any/all players and operate the newest map disc (if it is ever released).

truemagellen

you mean the CN-DV2300N http://www.leadmedia.co.uk/navweb/Ho.../CNDV2300N.htm

see...the NEW unit is derived from the CN-DV2300N and the difference is signified by its 'zoom in' before turns...the split screen feature...the model you mention is the older one...and was never released to end users (probably only to mazda in early production)

check out the new one here...also if you want you can probably swap it with the 2200 and it will play dvds...anyone want to by my nav unit?

http://www.satnavigation.com/panasonic_navigation.htm

irfan

what version is everyone running? I have :

on DVD: v.1.7.27.6

in program: DVD 3.18.20.2
Software: U9.95 2003.1

I jsut bought my rx8 on sunday, If this is outdated i think i should be entitled to the most current update shouldnt i?

irfan

nvm:

"Just like Jason, my car was manufactured in December 2003. Cars made after this date likely already have the updated software version.

Navigation System Versions (normal version page)
DVD 3.18.20.2
Software U9.136 2003.7

ECU Info Page (3 up 3 down 2 up)
Software -> Ver. Info

Main CPU (M) U4.06 2002.9
Main CPU (F) U9.136 2003.7
Sub CPU 82
CD-ROM Drive 2.04
GPS 0.0
Map Database 1.7.27.6
Map Software 1.7.32.3

If there's anyone out there with a version number that's different from U9.136 2003.7 I'd be interesting in seeing your build date and other version numbers for comparison."

Mine definitely doesnt have the keyboard thing , i thought it was a user setting but its not to be found. The showroom one had it tho. I'll see if I can get the software updated

thew

The Units can be reflashed to the latest firmware.
email me for more info

thew@sbcreative.com

irfan

you say the old one doesnt zoom in... mine is old.. and it does zoom in on turns.

truemagellen

that is a very good thing...you probably have the higher resolution output too...means you can just put in a disk and it will make it the newer software

my old unit did not zoom, lower resolution...my build date was May 2003 so the old unit wasn't just old but ANCIENT... by december 2003 (your build date) LOTs has changed including the NAV unit

I think mine was on the second shipment (it is number 600 or so)...ask those with dec build their versions

mazradiodoc

Your driving me crazy with this, what is the model number of your nav DVD player? If its the same model as everyone else then it has the same capability for upgrade ect.

thew

mine zooms in and its older firmware as well..

but not for long.

blksf8

hey Matt, that thread is invalid. can you send me the details. thanks!

irfan

Nope, mine is NOT a december build date. 5/03 listed on the door jamb. not sure how to tell what number it is.. but 974 are the last 3 digits in the VIN.

It zooms, but its still VERY slow and annoying to use.

truemagellen

so it zooms in at the turns, showing a split screen view?

or can the map just zoom in and out

irfan

jsut the map zooms in and out.. no split screen ever. no keyboard style layout either as i saw in the demo

truemagellen

ok you have the OLD one...like me...may need a hardware swap (just go to you dealer...be really nice and tell them how it is slow...freezes...looses position...etc. it worked for me...they were really nice about it...I didn't even have to lie or erase the software)

irfan

i'll try that tactic out