rexateher

hey does anyone know if and how much it will cost to get a nav sytem installed on my 8 from the dealer. Or is it a better deal on an aftermarket system out there?

RotorMotor

It's not possible to have the stock nav system installed after purchase. It's factory installed. I'm kicking myself too....

oosik

you can get much cheaper aftermarket stuff.....that's portable!!

rexateher

cheaper isnt always better. i want a quality nav system that looks integrated with car not something plugged into the cig lighter that sits in the ashtray. anyone know of a setup. and why cant they installed oem nav at dealer . this is bull.

Voice of Reason

Have you seen the factory nav system? It's pretty well integrated with the vehicle. I'm not at all surprised that it's a factory-only option. They can't even add the nav system at the port.

XK4

Probably the cheapest way to get a factory nav system would be to trade your current RX8 in for one with the nav.

-Dave

RotorMotor

No, the cheapest way would be to buy a new dash, the nav components and a new center console. You will likely be able to pick up all of the parts eventually (hell, you might even be able to order them now) but you'll probably end up spending more than the $2k that the nav cost in the first place and you'd either have to install it yourself or pay a 3rd party installer to do the work for you. Either way, it's probably a WHOLE lot cheaper than trading your car in...

OverLOAD

I priced out the cost of the LCD screen assembly, and center console.. Total price is US$1532.. Part number is listed in this thread I started:

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...en+part+number

Seems expensive, but the only other thing you would need, is the DVD Nav unit, and the two harnesses...

OverLOAD

rabinabo

I hate to say it, but eventually, there will be a few 8's in accidents that would be parted out, so the pieces will be available for cheaper.

rexateher

AMEN:D

OverLOAD

demand is stong. Prices will remain high for some time..

I will likely order the LCD screen upgrade...

mikeb

rexateher
that is a cool avatar

8_wannabe

This doesn't include the DVD player and the headache. What are you really saving here?

BRx8

Pluses for factory installed Nav System:
- integrated to the dash
- integrated to the stereo
- controls easily accessible under the stick
- automatically closes when car is turned off, opens when car is turned on
- when GPS is unavailable, uses gyro sensors to properly located your vehicle until GPS goes back up
- full color
- voice guidance
- too many features to list

Pluses(?) for aftermarket Nav
- cheaper (looks cheaper, doesn't integrate to anything, reminds me of those CD player to cassette adapters)
- portable (umm, yay...for those times when i'm walking around and i have no idea where i am... )

rabinabo

Actually, the street pilot 2650 can be installed so that it's connected to the speedometer and backup lights to get "dead reckoning" (when the GPS is unavailable). Most of the features (except for integrating into the dash) can be found with aftermarket units.

The portability lets you move it from one car to another (although it would be cool to have it while walking around ), plus you can prevent having it stolen by removing. I've been wavering on whether to get the stock nav unit or not (currently undecided). The pioneer nav screen system looks pretty good too, but for about $600 it may still be better to get the stock unit.

oosik

Hey, if you got the thousands to spend on it then by god, knock yourself silly!

and these gyro sensors are where?
Same with portables!!
You can get it integrated just fine, seeing as tho someone else is going to have to do it and you have much bucks to blow on it, just find the best installer around. I've witnessed plenty of aftermarket stereo installations that put OEM to shame.

okay nimrod since your in the mood to be a wiseazz...how being able to use it in another vehicle...duh.


I don't know.....I figured since the military went to store bought GPS systems for $500 due to the batteries in the $3k systems being worthless, also in lieu that those using them were laser targeting and OPs, they must know something. Several areas of DOD aviation use them as backup to their installed systems.

You may be all hard up on OEM stuff, but I have a hard time believing that mazda has the "say all" "end all" nav system on the planet. You can't tell me with all the professional sound system installers in the country that someone can't make a professional install that's equivalent or better than OEM.

Sorry I don't take kindly to ppl getting lippy for no reason!

OverLOAD

This isn't all about the NAV for me.. The NAV system is fine and all, but think about what you can do with the LCD screen that looks so fine the way it's integrated. In Car Computer!

OverLOAD

BRx8

whoa easy guy! damn sensitive aren't ya? notice the smiley face after my comment?

well i guess you can get an aftermarket system but to do like you said and get it "professionally" installed, it would cost you the same or even more than getting the factory nav...but no matter what it won't integrate as well as the factory does, the factory nav is in plain sight...it's right in front of your eyes...also, it is documented that when the factory nav loses its GPS signal, it uses gyros to "guess" where you are until the signal comes back up...where they are i have no clue, do a search...sure there are a lot of "professional sound system installers" but the RX-8 is indeed different...no matter what you'll have to somehow get past the CD player's panel for a retractable LCD screen unless you stick it where the factory nav should be, in which case it won't retract and it'll look out of place...it won't look stock, it won't look as good as the NAV's original look, and it'll cost you an arm and a leg, but isn't that what you're trying to avoid? it seems to me you're trying to avoid spending money which you keep bringing up...all i'm saying is fine, you CAN and perhaps will do it, but it'll look like crap since you didn't want to spend the money to have it done right the first time and you don't want to spend the money to do it right now, well, that's not my problem...

next time you plan on spewing insults, remember, dial WHINE-1-1...i don't wanna hear it...

Psylence

Mazda Nav system is far superior to the PDA based system I was using before.

Not to mention the nice integrated LCD. I would like to see someone *try* to do something equivalent to Mazda's setup for $2000 or less. That's your challenge, put your money where your mouth is!

miata2rx8

interesting thought- could you use the mazda console (flip up) and an aftermarket screen/ gps system- perhaps voice or voice activated? That could really be neat....

djantlive

if you want a nav sys, get the oem one and just pay for the option. don't wait and kick yourself later that you didn't get it and try to get the aftermarket one. aftermarket will play movies and can be operated while you are driving but the oem will be more integrated.

i am definitely getting a nav sys on my future car purchase. i use a garmin emap on my 94 which gets me to the destination fine but it's not integrated with voice and big screen. two thousand isn't bad considering a hand held is about 3-4 hundred bucks.

don't worry about it being stolen. it will only work on rx8. if you worry about everything getting stolen, you'll be driving a barebone corolla.

92MX5

For us poor Canucks, we HAVE to take the moonroof option in order to get the Nav system - very silly optioning.

Jeff

OverLOAD

To tell the truth, not a whole lot, I'd almost rather have the whole factory NAV system, seeing how expensive it is. I could then do the hacking into it.. but it's still $500 less than the whole package.

If I could just option the $2000 for the nav now, I probably would, but I don't intend to use the nav. I plan to hack into the video line and use a small computer in the car.

OverLOAD

Landon_Starr

Sorry, I'm coming in late and my question has probably already been answered in a different thread, but I can't find anything.

I'm assuming from overload's comment that DVD video CAN'T be integrated with the stock Navi system? I'm one of the poor fools who didn't option for it and am kicking myself, but have no problem ordering it now.....but if it won't play DVD videos for me I may decide on going aftermarket.....Can anyone offer some insight on the INPUT capabilities of the stock Navi system?

OverLOAD

You'd have to hack the lines on the LCD screen, but you could definately get video in to the LCD screen. It will take a substantial amount of research to figure out exactly how to do it tho..

OverLOAD