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HUSSAIN 11-24-2008 12:52 AM

Difference between radar detector
 
I have found a number of radar detector online starting from 35 dollars all the way upto 700 dollars. So what is the difference between all of them. What are the different features that these offer.

I want a radar detector which is reliable on a highway and is as cheap as possible. I will not use the detector in the city because i never ever overspeed while in the city so any annoying false alarm for the city do not concern me.

I live in pakistan and the radar guns with the police are not that high tech. So shoot away people.

laythor 11-24-2008 12:54 AM

you wont find a reliable and cheap radar detector.. you can have one or the other. Spend the most that you can afford.

alz0rz 11-24-2008 12:56 AM

http://www.radarbusters.com/radar-de...ardetector.cfm

alnielsen 11-24-2008 12:58 AM

These days, the quality of a radar detector is determined by it's ability to reject false signals. Distance is secondary, because they all can get you a pretty good range. To get what may be considered a good one, most drivers will spend about $200 (US) or more.

Silver06 11-24-2008 01:03 AM

You've got to find out what frequencies that they are using for their guns. They may be the same as US, but I recall from friends in Saudi that their US detectors didn't work there.

Best to start with what they sell locally.

Note that Radar detectors manufactured in the USA (Escort, Bell, Valentine One) CANNOT BE SOLD OUTSIDE THE US/CANADA - Department of Defense reasons.

swoope 11-24-2008 01:20 AM


Originally Posted by HUSSAIN (Post 2740358)
I have found a number of radar detector online starting from 35 dollars all the way upto 700 dollars. So what is the difference between all of them. What are the different features that these offer.

I want a radar detector which is reliable on a highway and is as cheap as possible. I will not use the detector in the city because i never ever overspeed while in the city so any annoying false alarm for the city do not concern me.

I live in pakistan and the radar guns with the police are not that high tech. So shoot away people.


hussain,

please get the fact that you are in pakistan in you avatar section.. it is the place called location.


it would help us all!!!!! see it is that part just below join date.. it is in your user cp.

i have an old on i could send you if i can find it. i am sure it would cover what you see.

do the police have ka, or lasar yet?

beers :beer:

alnielsen 11-24-2008 01:25 AM


Originally Posted by Silver06 (Post 2740365)
You've got to find out what frequencies that they are using for their guns. They may be the same as US, but I recall from friends in Saudi that their US detectors didn't work there.

Best to start with what they sell locally.

That may be true. I do know that the UK works on different frequencies.

Silver06 11-24-2008 02:33 AM

North American radars: X band; K band; Ka band only.

Silver06 11-24-2008 02:57 AM


Originally Posted by HUSSAIN (Post 2740432)
Here is a picture of radar detector pro-58 which shows V band as well.

Dude, that "V" on the display is for the VG2 alert. VG2 is what some police use to detect radar detectors. Search VG2 on wikipedia.

According to the specs. on that model, it only detects what I said above, plus laser.

Here is the owners manual: http://www.whistlergroup.com/manuals...ro58-73man.pdf

By the way, even the European radar frequencies don't mention this "V BAND" Euro frequencies are: Radar Frequencies: ~ 9.875 - 9.925 GHz (Euro X Band) ~ 13.425 - 13.475 GHz (Ku Band ) ~ 24.050 - 24.250 GHz (K Band) ~ 34.110 - 34.560 GHz (Ka Band ) ~ 34.450 - 36.000 GHz (Ka Band)

HUSSAIN 11-24-2008 03:06 AM

Sorry got this information about Vband from a friend who owns a cobra radar detector here. It is a 12 band which he got from usa band and he is quite satisfied.

swoope 11-24-2008 03:09 AM


Originally Posted by HUSSAIN (Post 2740424)
The police radars here have a V-band frequency. What detector do you have. Is it functional. Will it cover V-band. How much do you want for it.

thanks for playing the where are you from game..


to all.. wtf is v band.

somehow i dont think in pakastain they have a new set of rules, but i could be wrong..

i have an old passport.. search escort radar. that should get you to the place..

i think that might cover you.

what do i want. cover shipping. if i can find it you win.. :)

cant wait to learn about this v band stuff! :)

btw, the only thing that matters is what is being used! i got a laser hit today.. it was the sun..;)


beers :beer:

Silver06 11-24-2008 03:17 AM

Random, useless, too-much information from Wikipedia:

The V band (vee-band) of the electromagnetic spectrum ranges from 40 to 75 GHz. The V band is not heavily used, except for millimeter wave radar research and other kinds of scientific research. It should not be confused with the 600–1000 MHz range of Band-V (band-five) of the UHF frequency range.

The V band is also used for high capacity terrestrial millimeter wave communications systems. In the United States, the Federal Communications Commission has allocated frequency at 60 GHz for unlicensed point-to-point fixed wireless systems. These systems are primarily used for high capacity, short distance (less than 1 mile) communications. In addition, frequencies at 70, 80, and 90 GHz have been allocated as "lightly licensed" bands for multi-gigabit wireless communications. All communications links in the V band require unobstructed line of sight between the transmit and receive point, and rain fade must be taken into account when performing link budget analysis.


I was curious too.

swoope 11-24-2008 03:29 AM


Originally Posted by Silver06 (Post 2740458)
Random, useless, too-much information from Wikipedia:

The V band (vee-band) of the electromagnetic spectrum ranges from 40 to 75 GHz. The V band is not heavily used, except for millimeter wave radar research and other kinds of scientific research. It should not be confused with the 600–1000 MHz range of Band-V (band-five) of the UHF frequency range.

The V band is also used for high capacity terrestrial millimeter wave communications systems. In the United States, the Federal Communications Commission has allocated frequency at 60 GHz for unlicensed point-to-point fixed wireless systems. These systems are primarily used for high capacity, short distance (less than 1 mile) communications. In addition, frequencies at 70, 80, and 90 GHz have been allocated as "lightly licensed" bands for multi-gigabit wireless communications. All communications links in the V band require unobstructed line of sight between the transmit and receive point, and rain fade must be taken into account when performing link budget analysis.


I was curious too.

wow,

great answer.

wonder how that fits with the very overseas market.. my guess is that they use the same stuff as the us has used for years.

just a guess.. and if they are not into laser yet. well i think that says a lot..

and silver 06.

your posts are great, i wish i had the patience to do that. and accurate..

great job..!!! really. :)

beers :beer:

HUSSAIN 11-24-2008 04:36 AM


Originally Posted by swoope (Post 2740383)
hussain,

please get the fact that you are in pakistan in you avatar section.. it is the place called location.


it would help us all!!!!! see it is that part just below join date.. it is in your user cp.

i have an old on i could send you if i can find it. i am sure it would cover what you see.

do the police have ka, or lasar yet?

beers :beer:

What Radar Detector do you have?

How much for it?

My sister is coming to usa so you can it to her and i can pay you.
Thanks

HUSSAIN 11-24-2008 04:50 AM

Here are three detectors for less than 100 dollars.

http://www.amazon.com/Whistler-DE178...7523497&sr=1-7
http://www.amazon.com/Whistler-Pro-L...523497&sr=1-22
http://www.amazon.com/Beltronics-RX5...523497&sr=1-14

But i still cannot understand what is the difference between these three or the other radar detectors for that matter. Like whistler and cobra are offering about twenty of them and all have prices very closely packed. For example in the above link what is the difference between 1788 and Pro Laser Detector as they have the same price

StealthTL 11-24-2008 04:55 AM

I think the Bel is a better performer tjhan the Whistlers, but Bels have a fatal flaw, after about two years in a sunny window, they start to bleep that they need factory recalibration.
So you would have to send it back to the US factory.
Or just throw it in the garbage, like I did.

Piece of junk.....

S

firebirdude 11-24-2008 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by StealthTL (Post 2740513)
but Bels have a fatal flaw, after about two years in a sunny window, they start to bleep that they need factory recalibration.
So you would have to send it back to the US factory.

Do they actually display the word recalibration? Or do they scream "LASER"? Mine is doing that isht after only 6-8 months. A friend's is doing the same thing after 6 months.

To my knowledge Ku-band is the only other police band used in the world outside what we have in the US.

StealthTL 11-24-2008 06:48 AM

They say CAL REQD or some such once a week, then they say it every day, then soon - every minute, rendering them just a noisy paperweight.

Escort used to be one of the best, till Bel bought 'em.

S

alnielsen 11-24-2008 07:53 AM

My Escort 8500 screams calibration if it is placed down near the dash or when the windshield wipers are on.

amstarvid 11-24-2008 11:44 AM

I know some people have had issues with bels and escorts, but my bel rx65 pro is still working like a charm after 3 years & 62,000 miles in the car - but I do have mine mounted very high up by the headliner, so it doesn't get tons of direct sun.

04RX8man 11-24-2008 12:25 PM

I have a cobra 12band and it works good i do get some false readings at certain spots but on highway it works great(usually where you need it anyway) I think a paid 100 for it 3 or 4 years ago so prob about 130 or 150 now...

firebirdude 11-24-2008 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by alnielsen (Post 2740581)
My Escort 8500 screams calibration if it is placed down near the dash or when the windshield wipers are on.

I have another friend with the EXACT same detector and it did similar. Would flip out when she turned on the wipers. (Usually scream "LASER") They sent it off for service and it doesn't do it anymore.

Jedi54 11-24-2008 01:19 PM

Hussain:

www.radardetector.net Start reading, make less threads

shastamcnasty 12-03-2008 05:41 PM

Valentine One and done.

http://guysoflidar.com/august-2007/r...ctor-test.html

amoamare 12-03-2008 07:22 PM

Agreed I have the Valentine One and it so far has the best preformance over any standard radar detector.

renesisjim 12-03-2008 08:36 PM

I have a Valentine One as well, definitely worth the money. Just don't leave it sitting in the window on hot days. Will mess up the x and k calibrations. $45 dollars w/ Valentine to have it fixed

Silver06 12-03-2008 08:42 PM

LOL at u last three posters...

The Original Poster is in PAKISTAN

Valentine will not ship him a radar detector.

amoamare 12-04-2008 02:35 AM

Silver06
Ebay, i bought mine from ebay and he can have it shipped to him.

HUSSAIN 12-04-2008 03:57 AM

I know valentine one is good. Everyone know that but have you looked the price tag. I can buy a house in my country for that amount:)

Come on people don't want and afford a valentine. Can somebody suggest a good 100$ radar detector.

Jedi54 12-04-2008 11:08 AM

you can have a great radar detector or you can have a cheap one.
Pick one, can't have both.

HUSSAIN 12-04-2008 12:09 PM

Want just a decent one which works on highways. City no issue to me.

bhutad 12-04-2008 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by shastamcnasty (Post 2752818)

I agree I have a V1 and I must say..... I LOVE IT. Best detector I have EVER owned

rx8evo 12-12-2008 12:29 AM


Originally Posted by firebirdude (Post 2740530)
Do they actually display the word recalibration? Or do they scream "LASER"? Mine is doing that isht after only 6-8 months. A friend's is doing the same thing after 6 months.

I had one that did exactly that after baking in the sun over a summer here in AZ two years ago. I got it swapped out for a new one under warranty, and proceeded to take my detector out of my car each time it was not parked under shade for extended periods of time. That detector has worked fine since, but they do seem to be prone to heat failure (could be that nice black case absorbing the rays), but a good detector for the dollar (V995). A friend of mine runs the escort 8500 X50 (nearly the same thing as the 995) without any issues, and he leaves his on the windshield all the time. Again.. I have a weak theory the color of the detector may play a factor (escort being light grey in housing color) since the internals are based on the same platform, unless I am mistaken. I've got my eye on getting either the 9500ix, the 9500ci, or the RX65e as my next detector replacement. I thought about getting an 8500 x50 from a member here that was selling at a good price, since my friends holds up better in the heat, but I think I'll get one the Bel/Escort flagship models as an overdue replacement for my v995.

Bel or Escort are at the top of most people's short lists in terms of what's regarded as a good detector, however, the Valentine has it's kudos too, albeit, it's a bit on the large side for my personal tastes. The Valentine's are reported to outperform the Bels/Escorts in some bands, although they weren't reported in some test sites to have consistency in all ranges, namely Ka band in city mode, according to radarbusters.com, radartest.com, etc.. but I do take into account that those sites are in the business of selling you one of their detectors, and Valentine isn't one of them, so everyone should take that into account.

I've found several well done tests at youtube comparing several detectors, including Bel, Escort, Whistler, and the Valentine. Just type in something like V995 vs. 9500i vs. Valentine, and you'll get all the related videos. I have to say that I was rather impressed with how well the Valentine performed in some of the tests. Anyways, not sure if all of this has already been covered, but there's my 2 cents none-the-less. Happy (ticketless) motoring everyone.

shastamcnasty 12-24-2008 12:10 AM


Originally Posted by rx8evo (Post 2765542)
Bel or Escort are at the top of most people's short lists in terms of what's regarded as a good detector, however, the Valentine has it's kudos too, albeit, it's a bit on the large side for my personal tastes.

Size (from smallest to largest):

Valentine One -> 16.20 cu. in.
Bel RX65 Pro -> 16.33 cu. in.
Bel STi Driver-> 16.33 cu. in.
Escort 8500 X50 -> 18.95 cu. in.
Escort 9500i -> 21.72 cu. in.

Weight (from lightest to heaviest):

Valentine One -> 181.5g (6.40 ounces)
Bel RX65 Pro -> 236.6g (8.35 ounces)
Escort 8500 X50 -> 253.7g (8.95 ounces)
Escort 9500i -> 269.2g (9.49 ounces)
Bel STi Driver -> 291.6g (10.29 ounces)

The Escort 9500i is the largest in size and the Beltronics STi Driver is the heaviest. The Valentine One is the smallest and lightest radar detector of the top five radar detectors made today.

firebirdude 12-24-2008 07:10 AM

Anyone else smell something fishy?

Jedi54 12-24-2008 11:25 AM

IP check time...brb

alnielsen 12-24-2008 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by Jedi54 (Post 2784677)
IP check time...brb

He only posts about detectors. I don't have mod privs in this forum.

ShellDude 12-24-2008 12:40 PM

if his numbers are accurate who cares what it smells like...


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