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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 12:42 PM
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I believe some postings have been deleted by mistake, along with the IP postings that were intended for deletion. Hopefully nothing of value was lost.

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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 07:55 AM
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must have missed the url

can somebody pm me?
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 10:04 AM
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I will say it one more time. Take off-topic discussion elsewhere, this thread is long enough. If you want to complain, take it to suggestions or the lounge.

The other posts were not removed for advertising. They were removed becuase it was two pages worth of arguing over IP protocol that had nothing to do with Overload's module.

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Old Jul 4, 2004 | 06:03 AM
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I just did the ectomort CD Player hack in my non bose radio for my iPod. It works awesome! Plus the line out on the 12V adapter has its own volume control so I'm able to match it perfect so now iPod and FM radio are at the exact same volume. Its really nice, now I just need a nice place to mount it. So as for the module this thread is about... I probably won't be buying the original base model that only functions as an AUX input, but if a later model let me control my ipod through the dock connector, then I'd definitely jump back onboard!
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 09:51 AM
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bump-bump-bumpety-bump!
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 06:13 AM
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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 08:58 AM
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Been spending some time working on the unit last night. The beta software is running nicely now, and I've verified it against all the codes it needs to deal with.

I'm really surprised by how much work it turned out to be.. Probably the last time I decide to do something of this magnitude without some major help on the code side.

We're looking at new options now, since we can't get the tape module connector to hook cleanly into the HU. It's probably going to be similar to the PIE unit, if we can get a connector for that. the ideal setup is to keep the module inside the radio chassis in the tape slot, but that will probably be a solder-in option only. We've got the remote winamp control functions working, so that's pretty much set.

We're pretty much just trying to figure out the best way to package the unit for soldering-in and getting a comprehensive install guide, and that should pretty much take care of the first round.

At the least, I figured I'd update everyone on where we stand at the moment. I know that this project has been crawling along pretty slowly, I have to apologize to anyone who hoped that the unit would be around sooner. As other threads point-out, there is a pretty decent solution for plug-in Aux-in only with very basic features in a two-part solution. The Mazda/Alpine PIE adapter, and the M-BUS to RCA adapter. We've had a pie for a couple weeks, and works fine. We'll be getting an M-bus adapter next week, and we'll give people a run-down on that too.

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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 09:42 AM
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Overload, I had sent you a pm regarding the connectors. In case you didnt get it I will leave you this message.
A friend of mine is in the electronics manufacturing business. He makes 2 way radio communicators for snowmobiles, and boats, etc.
If you can send me the info on what exactly it is you need, I can forward it to him.
I understand you found a source, but the minimum purchase was too high.
Maybe my friend can source a smaller amount for you through his suppliers.
Maybe not either but it is worth a shot.
As they say it's not who you are but who you know!
If I can be of any help I will gladly do it.
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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 11:23 AM
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Something else occurred to me. If you do eventually try to get ipod controls working, obviously we'd one prev track and next track to work through the ipod, but i realized the other day that it would be great if the mute button paused the ipod!
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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by l008com
Something else occurred to me. If you do eventually try to get ipod controls working, obviously we'd one prev track and next track to work through the ipod, but i realized the other day that it would be great if the mute button paused the ipod!

I'm thinking the same thing for the people who want a car-puter. While the iPOD and Archos can't as easily be 'stopped' they can be paused, so that would pretty easily be handled.

or the carputer setup, I'm going to make the obvoius connections to the track-FW and track-RW from the FF and RW buttons, but I'm trying to work out a scheme whereby the carputer starts playing on its own (whenever it powers up), and then the AuxMOD tells it to pause/unpause depending on which mode it gets into. I might try to use the PROG button on the console to also do a pause, in case it gets out of sync, since winamp uses the same button control to pause & unpause.

The AuxMod is now working 100% as a tape deck substitute to enable the inputs on the HU, and operates very similarly to the Tape deck.

For iPOD connectivity, it's going to be the same problem with connectors. Unless Apple gets positively involved in this project, it's going to be a hack-job on a iPOD remote to get the remote controls to work. Other than that, it's relatively easy to make the iPOD remote controls work, since full-source for the controls already exist.

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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 03:57 PM
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OverLOAD, when do you think you'll be able to sell the solder-in version of your module? I'm pretty much ready to pull the trigger and go the PIE route (despite the possibility that it won't work) unless your module will be available very soon...

Thanks!
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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 06:59 PM
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Another note, the belkin car adapter I have, automatically pauses the iPod when i turn my car off FYI. Yeah having only one connector, the dock connector, would be much much nicer than having one to plug into the top and one to plug into the bottom.
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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 07:32 PM
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Another note, the belkin car adapter I have, automatically pauses the iPod when i turn my car off FYI. Yeah having only one connector, the dock connector, would be much much nicer than having one to plug into the top and one to plug into the bottom.
That's part of the whole pausing when changing tape modes.. It works within the tape controls, and only needs to be integrated into the iPOD controls. I'm starting on that very soon.

For anyone who just want's basic Aux-In, do the tape hack. If you want more, buy a PIE & adapter for $100 together. If you still want more, the AuxMod is still the only thing that will relay steering wheel controls, and that's the whole reason I did this. The PIE does the same thing as the tape hack, but eliminates the need to solder. AuxMod will be more compatable however, and should work nicely even with Mazda6's and people who've had problems with the PIE.

I'm not forcing anyone to wait for this unit before they do anything. I'm just expanding the capabilities of what was already out there. I'm not trying to get rich or famous. I just want to make a nice module that gives people the integrated controls that they should already have. After I've sold a handful of modules and repaid the initial monetary investment in this project, I'm strongly considering making the software open source so that anyone can integrate whatever other controls they please.

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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 07:45 PM
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I think the CD Player hack is even better than the tape deck hack, mainly because you don't have to go buy a tape deck! I'm planing on soon putting together very very details comprehensive picture filled guide taking you step by step through the whole hack. I'll post it when It's done but who knows when I'm going to get the time to tear my car apart again, this time with my camera in hand.
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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 09:58 PM
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Overload, whats the deal with the connectors? Did you get a smaller minimum quantity?
I am assuming you have them. I offered help twice with no response from you.
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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 10:19 PM
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https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-interior-audio-electronics-24/external-input-terminal-nav-sys-33994/

and theres this now .. we need to link these 2 threads
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 09:23 AM
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Overload, whats the deal with the connectors? Did you get a smaller minimum quantity?
I am assuming you have them. I offered help twice with no response from you.
Ther'e way-- back/. Mitsumi D37-015-BNBMG They won't sell them to me at less than 100,000 quantity over a year. so it's out. That's the preferred connector.

Other than that, the rear 16-pin connector is made by Amp/Tyco and is the same thing that the PIE adapter users. That would be OK to use too. No part number available. 2.5 or 2.4 mm horizontal spacing, ~3mm vertical spacing. two rows of 8 pins.

I've more than 100 hours trying to get these connectors, and have lost all hope. If you can find them, and someone willing to sell them, let me know.

Edit: Current scenario = no connectors = solder-in only.

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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 05:38 PM
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I don't know if this is any help. But I found a company in Denmark that have a minimum shipping quantity of 1000, for the mitsumi connectors.

The page is http://www.silma.dk/en/catalogue/ite...ategory_id=555.

Was just searching around a bit. I can contact a UK distributor of Mitsumi connectors, if you like and see what order quantities, they require.

I hope this helps.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 10:06 PM
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Overload, I have contacted my friend about the Mitsumi D37-015-BNBMG connector.
With any luck he can source them at a much lower quantity.
If he can I will contact you or simply hook him up directly with you.
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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Overload, I talked with my friend and none of his suppliers carry that particular connector.
He would like to know which company quoted you the 10,000 minimum order.
He will contact that company and see what he can do.
My friend also said that if they know you are working on a project you should have no problems getting some samples in the neighborhood of 20-25 pieces.
Also for the second choice you dont have a part number. I will give my friend the measurements as well as a pic of the port your module is supposed to plug into.
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 11:24 AM
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One other thing. You had mentioned way back that you would have to add 100 dollars to the cost of each unit to if you had to order 10,000 connectors.
Why dont you just go ahead and do that?
The cost would be 150 dollars. Still doable.
I would even be willing to pay around 200 dollars for this unit if need be.
Or we could all just buy casette players and send em to you with whatever money you need to do the work.
I would also settle for the solder in product. My electronics friend said he will do the soldering for me.
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 02:03 PM
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250 here !! go go go Overload
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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Also for the second choice you dont have a part number. I will give my friend the measurements as well as a pic of the port your module is supposed to plug into.
Bean 438, I have a board with the mating connector on it (board out of a broken CD changer). Would it help if I sent it to you?
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 11:50 PM
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I will ask my friend if he needs an actual connector to know what to get. Or possibly he may be able to concoct something up, using the cd changer connector.
Is it the connector that Overload needs?
I have read the entire thread and am not sure exactly where this is supposed to plug into.
Obviously not the cd changer port, so I am not sure if what you have is what Overload needs.
Overload is the plug that bobclevenger has the one you need to source?
Bob if the part would be helpful I will pm you with details on where to ship to.
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 11:54 PM
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My bad. Now that I read properly, you have the mating connector.
My friend could probably use it and see if he can come up with something to plug into it.
But let me double check with him first.
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