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Old May 12, 2004 | 09:42 PM
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Old May 13, 2004 | 10:02 AM
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I'd get rid of the 8 before I get rid of the Mac!!
DITTO!
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Old May 13, 2004 | 10:05 AM
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Start a new Mac vs. PC thread maybe?
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Old May 13, 2004 | 10:24 AM
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I'd get rid of the 8 before I get rid of the Mac!!
You guys are nuts... take my PC, take my Mac, but I'll never give up my zoom-zoom :D
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Old May 13, 2004 | 02:10 PM
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i just want a solution

Question for Overload: would a soldering solution mean simply attaching wires from the connector to the HU? If that's all that's involved I would be willing to give it a try right now.

As voiced earlier, all I really want is a solution to hook up my iPod. That means aux. inputs or dension's product. I like the integration of the icelink thing, but I want it now and would even consider buying that alpine adapter to hook it into. I'm not thrilled will shelling out the close to $300 it would take to buy those two products, but I'm really getting antsy. Also (not trying to keep this thread diverted) But I'd get rid of my car before I gave up my Mac.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 02:12 PM
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you mac bastards! I'd burn every mac before I would give away my zoom zoom :p

But yeah, we're getting impatient. very. need a aux-in solution very soon.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 02:32 PM
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Create a Website

This Thread is starting to be off topic a bit and I admit for helping that a tad. Sorry ... I think I might make one with a web blog... with all the pictures from this page on it and a way to post more with out having to have a login.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 02:36 PM
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I've been saying that! Overload make a pretty decent web site if you want me to help you out. You may even pay me in an aux module if you like ;-) just kidding.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 06:26 PM
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for spicedham:
before you go running out to buy the PIE adaptor for the alpine changer and the mbus to rca adaptor, find the other information on here somewhere that the people at PIE have already said that method will not work -

for the people unhappy about the size of this thread, why don't we just start a second thread - a part two - so that this one remains intact and we all switch over to the newer one. (and maybe if we're real lucky overload will give us regular updates on the new thread too)
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Old May 13, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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no point. might as well spam in one thread.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 08:06 PM
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The problem is this thread has gotten so long and out of control, it will take someone new to this topic 3 or 4 hours to read all the way through it just to find out that we're still just waiting for overload. What i think should happen is... this thread should be locked. I new thread should be started, as a sticky, that mainly is just for overloads updates, and ALSO, he should set up a web site for this device, even if its just a simple basic text one for now while the device is still being developed.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 08:31 PM
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And 2nd will grow just like this one. Our discussion just added 10 posts, same will happen.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 08:36 PM
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It can be moderated and kept on topic, plus if theres a web site to keep us all up to date, then we won't end up here just chatting about it out of curiosity.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by l008com
It can be moderated and kept on topic, plus if theres a web site to keep us all up to date, then we won't end up here just chatting about it out of curiosity.
Just relax- he'll have a website when he's ready, and there's already such a long list of waiting customers I doubt he needs to generate any more 'buzz' about it at this time.
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Old May 14, 2004 | 01:14 PM
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It's easy enough to come to this thread once a week or so and look for any new posts by "the man". Other than that I'm on overload's email list so any real progress will probably get a notification there. Not to worry. If this doesn't pan out there is always the tape-deck hack.
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Old May 15, 2004 | 12:26 PM
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Yes, the Mac serial port was RS232. It did not use the D-sub 25 or 9 pin connector is all. A simple adaptor cable is all that is necessary to connect from the standard 9 or 25 pin D-sub to the Mac-specific connector.

Yes, USB would be a good choice if Overload can implement it easily.
Keyphrase: if I can implent USB easily.

If I could, I would have chosen it, for obvious reasons. However to do that, and not have a serial port interface built into the interface is pointless, since then you need a custom API to talk to the thing. USB isn't that easy. first you make the hardware, then you need a software driver for each different OS in the world.

If you want to communicate with an external device, serial is the way to do it. It was the universal de-facto standard 30 years ago, and will be for another 15 to 20 years at least.

There's no reason not to use serial. all the excuses in the world don't add up to not using an interface as simple and ubiquitous as serial rs-232. We've got tons more speed over serial than we'll ever need, and it is avaialble on EVERY PC in the world. If you say 'my mac doesn't have serial', go buy a usb-serial adapter, and yes, you can force them to use COM1.

I know USB is cool, and hip, and everyone wants it instead, including me, but it's just not practical for this.

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OverLOAD

p.s. yes, the tape hack can substitute for this and do a pretty decent job. It's been updated a bit and can have a direct audio line in to resolve all the audio quality issues.. just no potential for remote control or any of the nice stuff this module would add.

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Old May 15, 2004 | 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by SlAoTkAiN
with that Alpine aux-in you'd get audio only, that plus is for a CD changer, not an iPod, so unless you can find an adapter you'd have to use that adapter that converts to the RCA plugs, then you've just spent $80 for the part and who knows how much time, when you could've just bought an FM modulator, hate to say this overload but I know Alpine's coming out with a line of iPod ready stuff, and it might actually be an aux input like you're working on they're holding onto the stuff until later this summer
That's fine by me. at least there'd be a product out there that does (some of) what we want.

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Old May 15, 2004 | 01:36 PM
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Overload 2 Questions


Will you sell as a Solder DIY Unit?


Will you make a website for your AUX Modules becuase this forum is getting big..
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Old May 15, 2004 | 01:57 PM
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Overload 2 Questions


Will you sell as a Solder DIY Unit?


Forum rules say I can't answer. If & When, you will get an email to tell you what the scoop is.


Will you make a website for your AUX Modules becuase this forum is getting big..
Yes, but it's not ready yet.

Now it is.. for those who must see it.. http://www.sylfex.com

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Old May 15, 2004 | 02:12 PM
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Cool Deal! just was curious, if you ever have anyquestions on the video screen in the rx8 let me know becuase I got them
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Old May 15, 2004 | 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by OverLOAD
If you want to communicate with an external device, serial is the way to do it. It was the universal de-facto standard 30 years ago, and will be for another 15 to 20 years at least.
I agree with the first part, and strongly disagree with the second.

But putting that aside for now, hows about a stats update on the device? Where do you stand? How are things going? I emailed you, you did put me on your mailing list right?
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Old May 15, 2004 | 08:25 PM
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I agree with the first part, and strongly disagree with the second.

But putting that aside for now, hows about a stats update on the device? Where do you stand? How are things going? I emailed you, you did put me on your mailing list right?
Actually, i believe OverLoad is 100% correct. The reason you dont see rs232 on products nowadays IS because everyone wants a USB device. But in all reality i would say most development is done through rs232's. USB is a novelty that most devices dont need. If you want to talk to a microprocessor, hook up the serial, write your simple C proggy and you're good to go. USB? Good luck!

At least that's my personal experience. There is more than enough bandwidth available, it's easy to use. So why wouldnt you?
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Old May 15, 2004 | 08:37 PM
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Blah! I talk to my 68HC12 w/USB!

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Old May 15, 2004 | 08:46 PM
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Actually, i believe OverLoad is 100% correct. The reason you dont see rs232 on products nowadays IS because everyone wants a USB device. But in all reality i would say most development is done through rs232's. USB is a novelty that most devices dont need. If you want to talk to a microprocessor, hook up the serial, write your simple C proggy and you're good to go. USB? Good luck!

At least that's my personal experience. There is more than enough bandwidth available, it's easy to use. So why wouldnt you?
Because I haven't owned a computer with a serial port in 5 years :-D
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