Element

Okay so I have the OEM NAV right now, but am thinking I would be better off going with a Carputer. Would something like this be good enough?

http://global.shuttle.com/Product/ba...ew.asp?B_id=16

Specs:
P4 2.2Ghz Celeron
Upgraded 250Watt Shuttle Brand PSU, true wattage
1GB DDR 333
ATI 9600XT 256meg Video Card
250Gb Maxtor hard drive 16meg Buffer
16x LG Dual Layer DVD Burner

I want it to run Satellite Radio, and Nav mainly.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

edblor

Where would you put that? It's an SFF bud. Not really Carputer friendly.

Personally, I'd go something Mini-ITX, in a very tiny case. www.mini-itx.com has some nice stuff.

Cheers

swoope

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i use something like that. works fine.. you just have to jump through some hoops.. the cool thing is you just disconnect and you have a desktop...

mine is a shuttle sff. i dont recall the #s but i think it is a 61.. i am running a p4 478 chip. dvd burner.. the video and sound are in the card...

i use it for nav, and scanaliser.

beers

Madhops

You should check out http://www.mp3car.com/

Their computers have similar specs to what you are looking at but the enclosures are much smaller. Also you don't need a good video card for videos, only for gaming and then really only if you have a high resolution monitor. Since the carputer LCD's have a max resolution of only 800x600 you shouldn't have a problem.

Rotary Rasp

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??
P4 2.2Ghz Celeron

Is it a P4 or a Celeron?

Either way, those are some hot cpus.

swoope

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the p 4s came in the reg version and the celeron.... my home puter has a p4 2.4 478 socket. running at 3.5 on air... at stock speeds they are not that hot..

btw, hot compared to what? the sff box in my car the cpu runs at ~ 35c.

beers

Rotary Rasp

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I don't get it?


the 478's are notorious for being hot

swoope

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i guess compared to what. i am a tard still running a 478 socket 2.4 at 3.5 and have found no reason to upgrade, or i would know the answer to that ? the suttle sff box in my car has never had a heat issue..

beers

Rotary Rasp

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I'm still confused about how a P4 can be a celeron.


A celeron is a celeron and a P4 is a P4.


Heat depends a lot on where the computer is located in the car and climate.

swoope

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they made a p3 and a p3 celeron. the same thing with the p4 the celeron had less memory on the chip.... i think it was like 128 vs 512. L1 and L2.. so the celerons were not as fast, but you could overclock the hell out off them..

i dont know how to explain it other than that.. i have a friend that has an old p3 celeron powering a server.. i gave it to him...

sure heat is about ambient temp.. but does the p4 run hotter that the new stuff what they may be??? my 2.4 running 3.5 runs at 62 c under 100% load for 24 min... yep that is hot, but it runs and runs and runs..

beers

Rotary Rasp

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I get what you're saying.

You're saying that since they are the same core, that makes them the same cpu. The celeron just has less on die cache.

yeah ok, i concur

swoope

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yep.

and you blue foot wells look cool.. i did not want to come across wrong in the other thead...

btw, what are the current cpu temps running and at what speed??? i only get into it when i need to upgrade. what is fast now..

beers

Rotary Rasp

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I'm running the via processor.

1ghz - 32c at 100% usage.

the mobo temp is about the same, if not a little less.

Via mini-itx systems are very power efficient. I'm running a dc-dc 90 watt psu with plenty of power to spare.

Element

So I'm a little confused. Would this be sufficient or not? I would buy one specifically designed for car use, but I have this just sitting around here, and figured it would be more economical to use this if possible.

What problems will I have to overcome using this?

Aseras

A celeron is a castrated penitum or whatever, half the piplines are cut.

swoope

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how you are going to power it is the big. one... are you going to put in a 12 straight power supply? or use and inverter.. which will work, but has some drawbacks...

as posted above. mp3car.com is a lot of help read around there forums..

beers

chickenwafer

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I have an HP E-PC. It's rather large as carputers go; 12"x12"x4". I'm currently struggling to find a place to stash it....I may be forced to stuff it in the trunk as a last resort.....it doesn't fit under the passenger seat without shimming but headroom is tight to begin with.