fenderlover

so i was at tweeter earlier today talking with one of there salesman about subs for the rx8

i was contemplating the difference between Jl audios w6 and w7 series what would be better when he mentioned a 13w6!!!!!!! he said only a select retailers can order it. JL doesn't even have it on there site!!!!


thoughts? rumors? w/e????

fenderlover

CORRECTION i just checked and they have it on there site


what do u guys think is better

13W7 or 13W6v2



pros cons????

rkostolni

W7 is their top of the line. It is the best they offer. However, the W-7 sounds much deeper than the W-6 and most other subs for that matter, make sure you like the its tone. But again, I wouldn't go with a 13" sub, it will be very difficult to fit, assuming you want it vertical, the 12" just barely fits.

fenderlover

if size doesn't matter what would u pick? w7 or w6

lurch519

let alone the 2 he wants to do

Kel Rx8

not this again

LiL BenNy

just get both, switch every other week :D

fenderlover

i've decided on only 1 subwoffer i just need to decide 13w6v2 or 13w7

BigOLundh

iTrader: (1)

Size Always Matters... LOL!!!

cooldriver88

W7 for sure I would take 1 W7 over even 2 W6's any day!

Rudsther

ditch the W7 go with a Kicker Solo X a 10", thats what im throwing in mine

fenderlover

but what is the difference between 13w7 and 13w6v2? the poeple at any sound store i go to say w6 is cleaner

rkostolni

go to a different store.

rkostolni

Jl designed the W-7 as their top of the line, then they used some of the technology they had developed to create the version 2 W-6 for the purpose of appealing to people who don't want to drop $750 on a sub. Same reason they have a W-3 and a W-0, to appeal to different markets. The only SQ issue with the W-7 is not a failure or the sub, but a preference. It sounds different than a W-6, it plays with a very deep tone. Listen to one and decide if you like it.

belkjz

i have always liked the w6 SQ better i really think jl made the w7 just to compete with other companies in the 1000+ watt category if you want SPL w7 if want SQ get the w6 what kinda amp are gonna run to a 13w7 you need at least 1000watts or you'll be wasting your money on the sub i dont know the specs for 13w6 but most run well at around 500-600 watts and its way easier to find and afford a clean amp in that power range

fenderlover

sry noob question spl and sq mean?

belkjz

sound quality and sound pressure level (decibels) thats not to say the w6 wont put out some db's too

belkjz

i read thru your posts(briefly) regarding audio stuff and i would like to know what your plans are for your system you didnt seem to ask as many questions about components or amps and head units and stuff if you post some of your ideas and budget and stuff i am sure there are plenty of people who would respond including myself also do you have the boss system

fenderlover

mainly i've figured out all the components to my system except the subs. i've decided to go will a single 13' jl audio sub. right now the only question is which sub to pick the 13w6v2 with a 500/1 or a 13w7 with a 1000/1 i want the system to sound really good but also to have some db's which do u guys think would solve by problem the best?

MrWigggles

First off,

For an RX-8 one 13W6 will plenty of bass. If you are trying to build a show car or do SPL competitions then you might need more bass.

One 13w6 with 500 Watts behind it will do about as much bass as 3 "normal" 10 inch woofers.

It doesn't go quite as deep in frequency response as the 13w7 but it is very close. However the SPL output will be slightly higher up to 500 Watts. The 13w7 will allow you to go to 1000 Watts if you really need to get that loud.

One thing that needs to be refuted. Two 13W6's with 500 Watts a piece WILL BE noticeably louder at all frequencies than one 13W7 that has 1000 Watts going into it (about 4dB to be exact). I don't want to argue that point, but to put it simply: doubling power into one woofer doesn't give as much output as doubling displacement by adding a second woofer.

If you have to go with a 13" woofer then I would go with one 13W6. (heck, one 10w6 is pretty damn loud by itself.)

-Mr. Wigggles

rkostolni

I agree, its because of something like, speaker output is based on cone area and excursion. Then Cone area is directly proportional to speaker output, but excursion is related to voltage instead of power. Since voltage is related to power by p=v^2/r, that means exursion is related to Sqrt(Power.) So speaker output is related to Sqrt(Power). Thus doubling the power only gets you 1.414x as much output, but doubling the cone area gets you 2x as much output. But of course it isn't twice as loud since your ear is logarithmic. If you were to add a second identical woofer, both powered to the same level, it would result in a 6dB gain, wereas a doubling of power only gives a 3dB gain.

fenderlover

so guys final vote 13w6v2 or 13w7 facts aside what would u rather have

RotaryN00b

I like the w6's better, much cleaner sound than the w7's... I had w7's in my scion for a while, but I ended trading them out (and getting some extra cash) for the w6's because the sound was so much more appealing to me

fenderlover

any recomendations store wishe with could have both

fenderlover

do u guys know of any stores that would even have both?