ExquisikRenesis

I dont know bout you guys, but i really wanted veilside to make a body kit for the new mazda rx-8...

but the only way to get it is to demand via veilside website for a mazda rx-8 body kits...

in order for veilside to make a body kit dat customer demand, there must be at least 1000 demands...

I think that through this forum, there should b at least 200 demands...

If you guys want veilside to make body kits 4 the new mazda rx-8, please make ur demands rite now at www.veilside.com and send them an email demanding them 2 make a body kit for the rx-8...

dying_here

demand as in 1000 ppl want to see them make a kit or actually 1000 customer?

Hercules

I think body kits are pointless. They make a car slower.

So no vote from me.

TJRX8

Didn't see anything on the site that would warrant a vote from me.
All you ricers better get busy if want a kit from these guys.

J/K guys, chill already.

ExquisikRenesis

basically... i'm just using 1000 as an example, but it doesnt have to be customer, as long as there are a lot of ppl that want to see or to have the veilside body kit for the mazda rx-8, than it would be accomplish...:D

dying_here

i have not seen many veliside kits in real life ( not alot of ppl can afford them where im from)
but so far im really impressed by the '00+ Celica kit, very beautiful

Fd3BOOST

Really?
I dont agree with you on that one. I am not a big fan of body kits either, but there is nothing wrong with a front fascia and a wing,or rear diffuser. In some cases they will improve airflow to the radiator and improve on drag coeffiency.

But Veilside is the worst!! NEVER!

Igoslow

I must agree.. viel side makes some ugly kits..

I am looking forward to wat RE-amemiya has to offer or FEED

But they don't neccessarly make the car slower. If using urethane it should almost be as much as stock weight. in which case the side skirts would be the only additional wright... a few pounds won't hurt. And if you want more speed.. ADD a BIG TURBO.. more air more fuel... hahah offset for the gain in weight..

Hercules

Well it's RARE that body kits make a car more aerodynamic or decrease weight.

Most of the time they are purely for looks, and to be quite honest, take away from a very elegant and sporty image that the RX-8 offers. Even the RX-7 (every generation really) has had a sport and class to it that body kits in my opinion, just nullify.

I'm quite pleased with the power of the RX-8, but the idea of the entire car is *lightweight* and high revving. When you add things like bulky body kits (and there may be light weight ones too, in which case I suppose I'm indifferent, except like I said... it takes away class) simply detract from the whole idea of the car.

When you add weight to a light weight car it's in my mind... rather pointless. Simple and subtle exterior upgrades are fine by me, some add a little 'panache' to the car, but the overdone body kits, well.... no.

Efini 8

veilside makes great kits. some are for show, some are for performance enhancement - lighter, more aerodynamic, better airflow for engine. some are both. veilside is an incredible company, the founder, veil something is a master at aerodynamics and his designs I really respect and his work is unsurpassed in many applications. veilside doesnt need 1000people to bother them, they make kits for all sporty cars that are in japan and are venturing into european sports cars. if they did the rx-7 with 2 different versions... you can expect a bodykit for the 8 from veilside.

ExquisikRenesis

Yes, i would agree with you on that...basically, every true tuner and racer out there all know that veilside body kit can possibly be the best kit out there, if it not for show than it's for performance, if it not for performance thatn it's for show. Their kit may be expensive, but as far as i had known...their kit last the longest on the street.

ExquisikRenesis

originally, every body kit company doesnt just make a body kit for any car, there must be demands in order for them to make the body kit for the car... so i thought veilside would be the same as all the other.

Efini 8

the demand for the fortune supra bodykit that retails at $20000 has VERY HIGH DEMAND, but little CONSUMPTION. demand and consumption of a good are two entirely different things

said7

Veilside makes some nice kits but they are way too expensive.

DA-Rx8

agree

moogle

no offense but it looks like non of you guys know the reputation of veilside. The reason their expensive because they spend countless hours using the windtunnels to experiment on their bodykit making sure that each area creates enough downforce for traction and smooth airflow. They are one of the best bodykit company around and most of them are used and tested at the tracks. So whoever thinks veilside is useless think again.

wankelmaniac

moogle said;

Yes, it is useless....unless you're going to run it on the track.

sixspeed

I don't quite understand the point of the first post. I've already spoken to Veilside in Japan about the RX-8, and they have plans for an RX-8 kit.

No mention of there having to be a demand for it.


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DA-Rx8

agree

wakeech

horsecrap. show me numbers. in fact, show me ANY shred of evidence that this is true, other than some ricer magazine editorial claim. people run them at tracks, fine. the only thing i've ever heard of vielside doing is drag racing: not exactly the toughest proving ground for an aero package (just look at all the ugly crap that can trap at 200mph with enough horsepower).

RE Amemiya makes some good stuff, and some ricey stuff. no one is exempt from this, as there's a market for "creative" or "different" looks, but these do not offer any significant performance advantage.

prove to me how something that huge, ugly, and universally unfunctional could offer any advantage, and i'll eat my words.

moogle

Looks are subjective... but for me prooving hard facts I don't have any links due to my 56k "takes forever:o ...."
I do recall the top end gt300 supra getting 200+ mph in 5th gear with the help of its dynamic widebody veilside kit.

Also why would a company waste $20,000 for a couple hours of using the windtunnel just to see if it's ugly and useless. "answer logically"

MUGEN/SPOON/VEILSIDE they all got hardproof, if you want proof go search for them because I aint going to waste countless hours on my 56k just to help you bite your own words.

Gord96BRG

Sure, they're aerodynamically beneficial, that's why Veilside's web site refers to the body kits as "Body FASHION" . It's marketing BS if anyone claims any aero benefits from this tacked-on junk.

Sure, all due to the widebody kit. I don't suppose they ever bothered to figure out that wider = slower, because of greater frontal area. If you're familiar with the Porsche tuner Ruf (they are a real performance tuner, not a cosmetic show tuner), you'd know that for their famous Yellow Bird turbo car that set Road & Track top speed records, and for any other top speed version they do, they choose the narrow Carrera body rather than the wider Turbo body because the narrow car is faster - more aerodynamic.

Those Veilside kits are great for making every car it's applied to look the same. What a great way to express your individuality! Turn your car into something that resembles a bottom feeding catfish that's sucking a lemon, just like all those 10 year old Civics out there. No thanks.

Regards,
Gordon

moogle

what what and what what... that's all I am hearing. Ok, if u have 1200HP and no weight to hold u down u wont get 200 mph, and infact you need that weight or you'll be flying backwards.

Because of greater frontal area??? Have u look at the the body kit??? Its not just the front end... sigh. Like I said again why would a company like veilside/mugen/spoon waste thousands of dollars for a few hours of the windtunnel just to say its useless...Now that's not good marketing and thats just waste of money. Talking about supercars... "porsches so u talk about" did you know the s7 saleen's body is so aerodynamically insane that you can drive it upside down if your going fast enough because each single area has use. Hp can get u so far = u need suspension, the aerodynamic body, chassis, but I bet u knew that right.

Eiyehk eiyehk run ons and comma splice. I understand little here and little there but u have them all over gordon.

jbart1981

It is 3000gt not gt3000 pleez
I drive one and am not aware of any time gains by anyone on the 3si.org site(largest worldwide 3kgt owners group)by adding a body kit. The twin turbo had speed activated aerodynamics in the front fascia and rear spoiler but those cars didn't even come close to 200mph without VERY SIGNIFICANT motor alterations. Ussually custom turbo setup, nitrous and stand alone fuel system computers, along with enlarged injectors and all of the ther items necessary to turn a street car into a full out race vehicle.
The reason why the cars with 320+ horsepower did not have extremely high top speed was due to the high weight o fthe cars from the complicated aerodynamics pieces, 4wheel drive and 4wheel sterring. The latter systems added great increases in drivetrain losses at higher speeds. they did however greatly improve 0-60 times, handling and poor weather condition driving.

sorry for the rant but it seemed necessary to clear up a few misconceptions.

p.s. I love the S7 and it is amaing that it can be driven upside down at 200mph because of the amazing downforce created by the baddass body design.


ok i f'ed up on that one it;s just that so many peoplei talk to screw up tje name it gets annoying after awhile.

moogle

No jbart not 3000gt... Toyota Gt300 top end supra.