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Old 06-20-2004, 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by D MENAC 7
The blacking out of the light and trying to form the RX-8 doesn't work, it is not correct when using light. Take a picture of your brake light lit from 10 ft. or more, post it on here and then compare it with the one that I designed and tell me which is superior. I can tell you the answer now. Look at my avatar, you can read the one I designed from a block away.

The reason is? It lets the light form the RX-8 Logo instead of blacking it out to form it. This is the correct method of lighting. I have never seen any of the decal pictures taken from more than a foot away. I can post pics all day long of ones that are of my design that have been taken of the entire rear of the car.
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Old 06-21-2004, 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by Kel Rx8
i think its peoples own personal choice
the thing we should worry about is the police
giving us a problem with this mod.
Very true that it's peoples own personal choice. I'll concede to that fact.

Here is the law governing the third brake light...

Each passenger car manufactured on or after September 1, 1985, and each multipurpose passenger vehicle, truck, and bus, whose overall width is less than 80 inches, whose GVWR is 10,000 pounds or less, manufactured on or after September 1, 1993, shall be equipped with a high-mounted stop lamp which:

(1) Shall have an effective projected luminous area not less than
4 1/2 square inches.
(2) Shall have a signal visible to the rear through a horizontal angle from 45 degrees to the left to 45 degrees to the right of the longitudinal axis of the vehicle.
(3) Shall have the minimum photometric values in the amount and location listed in Figure 10

Information derived from:http://fmvss108.tripod.com/fmvss108text.htm
The FMVSS108 is the federal guideline for vehicle lighting.

So, what this all means is that the total lit area must be 4.5 square inches and that the light must be viewable within a 45 degree angle from side to side. The photometric value requirement is derived with the stock lamp that is in the housing.

Can a cop pull you over for either mod? Even if the cop doesn't understand the full extent of the law, he can pull you over for anything he sees fit for. First off they would have to fully understand the requirements and secondly both forms of this mod are within the full requirements of the law. I have measured the masking of the one I have and it does provide more than the minimum requirement of 4.5 square inches of effective projected luminous area as well as the sticker method does too.
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Originally posted by thew
hey D Menac 7

what co's have you LD for ?

I have been a LD since 1985 ...
My profession is not in stage lighting. My profession has been in technical staff support for instructional purposes at a state university. I have been doing this for 22 years. My expertise has to do with projection of images and complex connectivity of instructional equipment. I had lighting instruction when I was working on my degree as part of some of the courses I took. Presently I work with everything from LCD data projectors for presentations to a 35 MM professional film projector, the type that is used in a movie theater, in an auditorium used for many purposes. I regularly work with licensed stage hands and the stage directors in a performing arts 2000 seat auditorium on our campus. I remember reading someplace on here where you have worked with performing arts on the stage for a long time.

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Originally posted by D MENAC 7
Very true that it's peoples own personal choice. I'll concede to that fact.

Here is the law governing the third brake light...

Each passenger car manufactured on or after September 1, 1985, and each multipurpose passenger vehicle, truck, and bus, whose overall width is less than 80 inches, whose GVWR is 10,000 pounds or less, manufactured on or after September 1, 1993, shall be equipped with a high-mounted stop lamp which:

(1) Shall have an effective projected luminous area not less than
4 1/2 square inches.
(2) Shall have a signal visible to the rear through a horizontal angle from 45 degrees to the left to 45 degrees to the right of the longitudinal axis of the vehicle.
(3) Shall have the minimum photometric values in the amount and location listed in Figure 10

Information derived from:http://fmvss108.tripod.com/fmvss108text.htm
The FMVSS108 is the federal guideline for vehicle lighting.

So, what this all means is that the total lit area must be 4.5 square inches and that the light must be viewable within a 45 degree angle from side to side. The photometric value requirement is derived with the stock lamp that is in the housing.

Can a cop pull you over for either mod? Even if the cop doesn't understand the full extent of the law, he can pull you over for anything he sees fit for. First off they would have to fully understand the requirements and secondly both forms of this mod are within the full requirements of the law. I have measured the masking of the one I have and it does provide more than the minimum requirement of 4.5 square inches of effective projected luminous area as well as the sticker method does too.


:D this is something i can print out and have in the car when needed.i think it depend on the cop.i got pulled over last week for no front plate,he's been pulling me over in my cars for as long as i can remember.and he never said anything about the brake mod on the rx8.so far so good.

btw i have the D MENAC 7 brake mod and have to say i luv it.
the stealth look makes people go nutz.
also have polak graphics and the are great i have them on brakes,windows,side decals.
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