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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 08:53 PM
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How "Soft" is Mazda's Black Paint?

I've had several black cars, but the BMW I have right now is totally ridiculous when it comes to swirl marks. I swear the wind puts them in the paint. So this may be a weird question, but how difficult is Mazda's brilliant black paint to keep looking nice?

I know all black cars are a pain in the ***, but I've found some are more difficult than others. I had an Audi A4 that was actually pretty easy. Looking at an '09 R3.
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 09:49 PM
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Mazda's paint is somewhat soft but I find Honda, Subaru and Mitsubishi paint to be much softer.
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 09:52 PM
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wouldn't clear coat have more to do with this?

I mean I don't know, just seems like it would
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 10:02 PM
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I have a BB and the paint easily chips.
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 10:04 PM
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+1 to easy chips.
it's soft but there if worse paint out there.
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 10:27 PM
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It chips easily. I think it's pretty bad, but obviously there is worse out there according to others. It must be really bad...
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 11:07 PM
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It chips, but my 04 paint still looks pretty good. I still get compliments on how well the paint looks....the biggest judge of our cars paint is us though. It looks much nicer than we realize b/c we look so close...show car quality? Never, but day to day.....my paint still looks great from the naked eye.
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 11:19 PM
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it scratches easy. Esp what ***** have no respect. A white or gray would be a lot smarter if you want to keep it looking nice and neat. (in comparison of course)
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 11:37 PM
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My paint looks good from 10' away. The closer you get the more chips you see.
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 11:40 PM
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The worst is the plastic bumper/fascia. That thing gets the brunt of the damage and looks bad upon close inspection.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Alexb
wouldn't clear coat have more to do with this?

I mean I don't know, just seems like it would
This.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 12:30 AM
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mazda paint is pretty atrocious.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 01:21 AM
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chips easily, scratches easily. I polish my paint once or twice a year to keep it good and remove most scratches, but the chips are still there.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 01:40 AM
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You think Mazda's paint is bad? Try owning a Nissan...
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 12:47 PM
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+1, had both Nissan and Honda and the front bumper looked like it was sand blasted after the first year or so.

Trying to take it easier with the RX8, specially since mine is black.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 12:54 PM
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Banilejo, Do they use salt and or gravel in Boston during the winter? I have not lived their since 1989 and can't not remember. If they do and you drive during the winter then good luck preventing chips.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Renesis SE3P
You think Mazda's paint is bad? Try owning a Nissan...
I sat in a last gen Altima recently and saw how cheap the interior was, it doesn't surprise me the paint would be as bad.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 01:04 PM
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My BB has seen two Ohio winters and some pretty forceful impacts with autocross cones... the paint on the wheel well lips is pretty torn up along with the front bumper.... the rear bumper gloss is gone because I've been running catless so long (i assume)

Black looks like crap when its not washed and waxed, but it will make any white or gray look like garbage when they are polished up to impress.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Renesis SE3P
You think Mazda's paint is bad? Try owning a Nissan...
That actually depends on the color. The Brilliant Silver on our Infiniti is significantly harder than the VR on the RX8. It is hard, but not too hard for imperfections to be removed with difficulty. We also had a 1993 MPV in green (forgot the name), that also had very hard paint. Unfortunately for modern cars, there are stricter environmental restrictions and economical reasons for the paint to be of less quality than they were back then.

With that said, the paint on my RX8 looks and feels practically brand new. The way it is maintained plays a major roll in durability, look and feel obviously.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 10:34 PM
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by kersh4w
mazda paint is pretty atrocious.
and this is y i got the entire car repainted and clear coated at my body shop
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 01:08 PM
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If I had gotten the car new, I would get the 3M clear protector sheets for the front. Would have helped a lot.
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by pdxhak
Banilejo, Do they use salt and or gravel in Boston during the winter? I have not lived their since 1989 and can't not remember. If they do and you drive during the winter then good luck preventing chips.
Yeah they do unfortunately but I didn't drive in the winter. I don't drive the RX8 in the winter either but I may start next winter since I just miss driving it too much Just respray the front bumper like I did on my other cars if it becomes a problem.
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 07:35 PM
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I was really referring to swirl marks. How bad does it get/show swirl marks from drying it?
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 08:28 PM
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Use microfiber cloths.
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