Stage 1 Shipping at Last!
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I have a few questions. A buddy of mine that I worked with had a chipped Passat. Whenever he had to take the car to the dealer he would just take out the mod chip that he had for it. This was not a once a week thing just whenever neccassery. Reading the instructions above it looks like this is physically not that big of a deal to do, would it be bad, or leave a record of it being there though?
Also since we are making the car run leaner, it logically follows that the gas mileage should improve, does it?
Now as a new CSC graduate that loves cars and to tinker with them I want to say thank you. I do not own an rx8 at this time but if your hard work on this pans out I may soon. Mazda should, but wont, send you a royalty check for my purchase.
97 gsr
EDIT: Oh and have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
I will but I will be on my honeymoon.....
Also since we are making the car run leaner, it logically follows that the gas mileage should improve, does it?
Now as a new CSC graduate that loves cars and to tinker with them I want to say thank you. I do not own an rx8 at this time but if your hard work on this pans out I may soon. Mazda should, but wont, send you a royalty check for my purchase.
97 gsr
EDIT: Oh and have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
I will but I will be on my honeymoon.....
I like cheese!
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From: Little Rock, AR (was vegas)
Originally posted by Jhouse
HMMMMM.....
AUDI.........MAZDA
Oh i get it THEY ARE 2 TOTALLY DIFFERENT CARS, I am just outraged by this discovery. All this time i thought i could go out and buy an audi mod chip to put in my mazda.
I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE TRY TO COMPARE PRICES, MODS ,OR ANYHTHING ELSE FOR THIS CAR TO A TOTALLY f%^#^$ DIFFERENT CAR.
p.s. AHHH i feel better now.
HMMMMM.....
AUDI.........MAZDA
Oh i get it THEY ARE 2 TOTALLY DIFFERENT CARS, I am just outraged by this discovery. All this time i thought i could go out and buy an audi mod chip to put in my mazda.
I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE TRY TO COMPARE PRICES, MODS ,OR ANYHTHING ELSE FOR THIS CAR TO A TOTALLY f%^#^$ DIFFERENT CAR.
p.s. AHHH i feel better now.
http://www.goapr.com/Audi/products/ecu_upgrade_rs6.html
Stage 1 for the RX8 suddenly looks very atractive
Originally posted by Omicron
Not much to installing it:
Not much to installing it:
NEGATIVE battery cable
3 bolts and two cable clips for the ECU cover
You will need to pull at least TWO of the five ECU harness plugs.
I doubt it will even be quite that simple - Canzoomer has figured out a way to put the mod box inside the ECU box. That can't be on top because the top of the ECU itself is very close to the lid. You will probably have to unscrew the 3 bolts that hold the ECU in the box itself and lift it out of the way to put the mod box underneath.
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Originally posted by Genom
This will be the absolute best 500 bucks spent on the car IMHO powerwise.
This will be the absolute best 500 bucks spent on the car IMHO powerwise.
You mean the $70 I'm spending on my all-season floor mats isn't the best money I'm spending on my 8?:p
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From: Alexandria, VA
"Maurice"
“Maurice”*
Maurice, your fans are waiting, Maurice
And salivating, to spark
Our 8’s rotating
And Z’s will fall as we install
We’ll moon with flared rear fenders
The Boxters in the benders,
For revs we are big spenders,
Maurice, won’t you please ship to me.
*Apologies to Irving Berlin, Tommy Dorsey, and most on the Forum, who are too young to know who either of them were. See http://www.lyricsfreak.com/i/irving-berlin/68131.html.
Maurice, your fans are waiting, Maurice
And salivating, to spark
Our 8’s rotating
And Z’s will fall as we install
We’ll moon with flared rear fenders
The Boxters in the benders,
For revs we are big spenders,
Maurice, won’t you please ship to me.
*Apologies to Irving Berlin, Tommy Dorsey, and most on the Forum, who are too young to know who either of them were. See http://www.lyricsfreak.com/i/irving-berlin/68131.html.
Originally posted by Jhouse
HMMMMM.....
AUDI.........MAZDA
Oh i get it THEY ARE 2 TOTALLY DIFFERENT CARS, I am just outraged by this discovery. All this time i thought i could go out and buy an audi mod chip to put in my mazda.
I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE TRY TO COMPARE PRICES, MODS ,OR ANYHTHING ELSE FOR THIS CAR TO A TOTALLY f%^#^$ DIFFERENT CAR.
p.s. AHHH i feel better now.
HMMMMM.....
AUDI.........MAZDA
Oh i get it THEY ARE 2 TOTALLY DIFFERENT CARS, I am just outraged by this discovery. All this time i thought i could go out and buy an audi mod chip to put in my mazda.
I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE TRY TO COMPARE PRICES, MODS ,OR ANYHTHING ELSE FOR THIS CAR TO A TOTALLY f%^#^$ DIFFERENT CAR.
p.s. AHHH i feel better now.
no **** they are 2 different cars... ahh stupid me thinking I could use the same chip. you are a jack---.
i sorry but a chip costs they same amount to produce if its for a audi, mazda, or porsche. There is money spent for development, but the audi example they cracked the entire Motec engine management system - one of the most complex in the industry buddy, and not just the fuel system. Another example is in another forum here where for $750 he got similar hp results and something that is completely reprogrammable for every mod he installs in the future!
...maybe I'm the only one who is tired of being overcharged for every f$&*^g part for this car....
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From: Boulder County, Colorado
Originally posted by Maniac
Uh, almost.
NEGATIVE battery cable
3 bolts and two cable clips for the ECU cover
You will need to pull at least TWO of the five ECU harness plugs.
I doubt it will even be quite that simple - Canzoomer has figured out a way to put the mod box inside the ECU box. That can't be on top because the top of the ECU itself is very close to the lid. You will probably have to unscrew the 3 bolts that hold the ECU in the box itself and lift it out of the way to put the mod box underneath.
Uh, almost.
NEGATIVE battery cable
3 bolts and two cable clips for the ECU cover
You will need to pull at least TWO of the five ECU harness plugs.
I doubt it will even be quite that simple - Canzoomer has figured out a way to put the mod box inside the ECU box. That can't be on top because the top of the ECU itself is very close to the lid. You will probably have to unscrew the 3 bolts that hold the ECU in the box itself and lift it out of the way to put the mod box underneath.
...chuckle...
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From: Lebanon, NH
Pr0ber,
Chill out a little bit. Canzoomer was overly optimistic when he originally quoted $500 for his fuel controller and at that price it barely covers the cost of manufacturing the unit. If you are interested in the details you should really contact Maurice.
Also as a sign of good faith he is offering the unit to early adopters at the original price. How is that for customer service?
Chill out a little bit. Canzoomer was overly optimistic when he originally quoted $500 for his fuel controller and at that price it barely covers the cost of manufacturing the unit. If you are interested in the details you should really contact Maurice.
Also as a sign of good faith he is offering the unit to early adopters at the original price. How is that for customer service?
Originally posted by i3man
Is this something that you could take off before taking the 8 in for warranty work and the dealer would never know you were using it?
Is this something that you could take off before taking the 8 in for warranty work and the dealer would never know you were using it?
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Originally posted by i3man
Is this something that you could take off before taking the 8 in for warranty work and the dealer would never know you were using it?
Is this something that you could take off before taking the 8 in for warranty work and the dealer would never know you were using it?
A 10mm socket
A pair of small pliers
A rag to remove fingerprints.
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From: Edmonton, Alberta
Originally posted by DoobyWho
I wanna fax
i coulda sworn i was one of the first to email. lol.
I wanna fax
i coulda sworn i was one of the first to email. lol.
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I think Jhouse has i right...why complain about a 750 mod when you just bought a $30,000 car. If your that strapped for cash, then getting a $500+ car payment and higher insurance premium wasn't the best decision.
Tim
Tim
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Originally posted by Tim Benton
I think Jhouse has i right...why complain about a 750 mod when you just bought a $30,000 car. If your that strapped for cash, then getting a $500+ car payment and higher insurance premium wasn't the best decision.
Tim
I think Jhouse has i right...why complain about a 750 mod when you just bought a $30,000 car. If your that strapped for cash, then getting a $500+ car payment and higher insurance premium wasn't the best decision.
Tim
I almost took them up on it, until I realized that a comparable car, like an S2000, G35C, 350X, Audi TT, etc. would all cost me a LOT more money.
The RX-8 is a steal.
If you want more power $750 is trivial.
Heck, I get about 6 guys a week buying illuminated shift ***** from me at $235 a crack!
Drive it like U stole it!
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From: Woodbridge, Ontario
Originally posted by canzoomer
Heck, I get about 6 guys a week buying illuminated shift ***** from me at $235 a crack!
Heck, I get about 6 guys a week buying illuminated shift ***** from me at $235 a crack!
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Well, yesterday we installed what appears to be the final prototype in Canzoomer's car. It now includes a switch on the side of the box to select Stage 0 (stock) or Stage 1. Access to switch by opening ECU box. Best news for us was it fits and works fine.
As for the dyno I'll have to let Canzoomer comment. I think we now know how to dyno without upsetting the ECU into limp mode.
How to Dyno an RX-8:
1. Find an understanding dyno operator.
2. Drive up to the dyno but not onto it.
3. Slide under the rear of the car and remove the bolt on each rear hub that holds the ABS sensor in.
4. Back the car onto the dyno drums.
5. While strapping the car in place (recommended) pull out each sensor and tape it up out of the way of moving parts.
6. Do your dyno tests, but keep them less than 15 sec. duration. Turn off the car between tests.
7. When done, and while unstrapping the car, wipe off each sensor and reinsert.
8. Pull off dyno and reinstall sensor bolts. I say do this "on the floor" because if you drop one of those bolts into the dyno rollers and don't have a replacement, you will have to leave your car there until you can get a bolt.
If you dyno once a year or so, this will suffice. If you are developing a race car you may want an "ABS fooler", which we hope to have available in a month. You will still be limited to about 15 sec. runs, but at least there is no messing around with sensors every time.
Hymee discovered the EPS (power steering) gets upset too - thus the 15 sec. limit. Thanks Hymee!
This car is so paranoid! Guess that's why it saved the posters life on the RX-8 Discussion area. Great job Mazda!
As for the dyno I'll have to let Canzoomer comment. I think we now know how to dyno without upsetting the ECU into limp mode.
How to Dyno an RX-8:
1. Find an understanding dyno operator.
2. Drive up to the dyno but not onto it.
3. Slide under the rear of the car and remove the bolt on each rear hub that holds the ABS sensor in.
4. Back the car onto the dyno drums.
5. While strapping the car in place (recommended) pull out each sensor and tape it up out of the way of moving parts.
6. Do your dyno tests, but keep them less than 15 sec. duration. Turn off the car between tests.
7. When done, and while unstrapping the car, wipe off each sensor and reinsert.
8. Pull off dyno and reinstall sensor bolts. I say do this "on the floor" because if you drop one of those bolts into the dyno rollers and don't have a replacement, you will have to leave your car there until you can get a bolt.
If you dyno once a year or so, this will suffice. If you are developing a race car you may want an "ABS fooler", which we hope to have available in a month. You will still be limited to about 15 sec. runs, but at least there is no messing around with sensors every time.
Hymee discovered the EPS (power steering) gets upset too - thus the 15 sec. limit. Thanks Hymee!
This car is so paranoid! Guess that's why it saved the posters life on the RX-8 Discussion area. Great job Mazda!
