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Old 05-06-2008, 11:52 PM
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I will have the table modified and sent to Jeff tomorrow! This is simple stuff, Scott
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Originally Posted by MazsportScott
I will have the table modified and sent to Jeff tomorrow! This is simple stuff, Scott
That is VERY VERY good news.

Thanks Scott!
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Originally Posted by MazsportScott
I will have the table modified and sent to Jeff tomorrow! This is simple stuff, Scott
So to speak.
Simple stuff would have been to use coils with dwell characteristics that match the OE coils.
What is NOT so simple is having to prepare "ignition solution" versions of 150 or so calibration sets.
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Yeah, that does really suck.

If you want me to be the 1st to test out the new dwell settings, just include that in the maps you are supposed to send me.
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Originally Posted by turborx8
If you want me to be the 1st to test out the new dwell settings, just include that in the maps you are supposed to send me.
As soon as Scott lets me know the characteristics of his coils or sends me a copy of the dwell map, I'll get that out.
Old 05-07-2008, 12:43 PM
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I'm way out of my league knowledge-wise here, but I'm guessing there is a reason Scott is using the coils that he is. He may not want to share that reason, which is perfectly understandable. After all, he makes his living basically off intellectual property (his designs).
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In my opinion, there should be a turbo version and N/A version so that no dwell settings are required to be changed by the EMS.
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Originally Posted by turborx8
In my opinion, there should be a turbo version and N/A version so that no dwell settings are required to be changed by the EMS.
That would require two different setups entirely.
I think if Scott had realized he was going to face this particular combination of issues, he would have selected coils based on the appropriate criteria.
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Cant wait for it~~

Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
As soon as Scott lets me know the characteristics of his coils or sends me a copy of the dwell map, I'll get that out.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
That would require two different setups entirely.
I think if Scott had realized he was going to face this particular combination of issues, he would have selected coils based on the appropriate criteria.
If he did, would the upgraded coils add any HP?
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While I completely understand the frustration, I think some folks are looking at this the wrong way. The fact that the ECU has mapping for dwell times is AWESOME. It means that, in the really exotic circumstances where ignition systems that don't match the OEM behavior may be required, the stock ECU can still do the job. I know it's a lot of extra work for MM, but he's obviously a glutton for punishment so he's probably secretly doing cartwheels of joy as a result. Otherwise he'd ship the AP's and a set of maps for "supported" kits and leave it at that. Special order maps would cost extra.
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I agree.

The issue has been solved and the only problem is that Jeff has to spend more time building custom maps for those that have the ignition upgrade.

Scott sent the dwell settings to him today so I will post back the results once Jeff sends the new maps my way.
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dont forget aobut me also
should i send you the map again?
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I'll get something to you tonight.
I never got the email last night.

Did you forget about me?
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Don't make me pull this car over!
Are we there yet?
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Are we there yet?
I need to pee!!!
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Are we there yet?
and i am hungry
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Hopefully I get the new maps before Saturday because I am planning to go to the drag strip to see what my trap speeds are.
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Review:

I haz torque @ 3k in N/A trim in 6th gear...I dont downshift anymore to pass when cruising along at 65...I was all like...WTF?

My MPG is up for sure...I'm running the car on the lean maps and not really thrashing it all the time...

When I thrash it...she drinks like a good girl...

Exhaust stink in catless mode is down...almost bearable...

Throttle response is the way IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN...

Fans kick on earlier...good thing...

I'm able to monitor the car and check up on it whenever I want...

I'm replacing plugs friday and I'll see if I can get a dyno in soon...
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Did any of you guys waiting on e-mails get my requests yet?
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I have a cold air intake in my RX8. I hear it causes crazy problems for the MAF sensor or something of that nature when combined with the AP. But if I buy it from MM he can send me a special map that adapts to the intake? And now i hear something is wrong with the stock coils, or is that just for force fed RX8's? Just need to know: Cold air intake on mine, I buy an AP from MM, out of the box what do I need to do? Thanks much.


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