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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 12:56 AM
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Pretty cool!
I'm even more impressed with the "dynamic laser cruise control"!
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 08:58 PM
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By the way Mazda is offering the same technology for the new MX-5 as the Toyota. It's an option.
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 03:46 PM
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Ok, can anyone tell me where I went wrong? I used the power source from the lighter but now the button won't work unless the headlights are on..... the button stays powered when the headlights are off and turns off when the headlights are on ... So I have light to the button during the day and no power at night which is opposite.... and I can only start the car when the headlights are on....
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 09:28 AM
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Power for start button

You must have tapped the power for the light that surrounds the lighter socket. I believe you need power that feeds the lighter socket. This is powered when the key is in the run position.
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 01:07 PM
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yup you were right :P
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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I have the Honda Start Engine button right in my hands. You wrote that there are 3 wires needed to be attached to the button. However, there are five connector pins on the back of the start engine button. Which are the ones that need to be connected?
Sorry for the blurry picture. It was done by a crappy webcam.
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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Crap....

...I forgot to put the pictures in for that, there are two threads about it....

I think it is the last three from the left, in these pics. Red is 12v, blue is ground yellow out to clutch switch.


S
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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A few more questions:

1. How did you remove the plastic that holds the ashtray and the lighter? You wrote that is is held by clips. Do I need to just pull it? Do I need to use a screwdriver?

2. How did you fix the wires? Did you solder them?

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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 03:47 PM
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"The gear **** surround pulls straight up with 8 clips, and the lighter bin is held in by two clips, and two screws under that surround."

Maybe I should type slower

You need to take off your gear shift ****, lift the shifter plastic surround straight up (or pull up on the boot), then undo the two lighter/bin retaining screws, and pull free of the two clips.


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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 04:14 PM
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There are good pictures in Gomez's thread about the short-shifter. That explains well how to remove the "gear **** surround".
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 10:48 PM
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I managed to install my engine start button. I had to use Dremel tool to make the lighter hole bigger, otherwise the button would not have fit.
The button emits a very faint red light. It can only be seen in total darkness. Is your button that dim, too?

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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by StealthTL
The signal wire needs to go to the starter relay, and there are two or three options for that......

The signal can

A-join the 'white/ light green' wire on the lower clutch switch, (the one that makes contact to stop you starting in gear.) This keeps the switch in the circuit, meaning you still have to push the clutch to start, or you can

B- join the 'light green/red' wire, bypassing the clutch stomp, and allowing the car to chug away in gear, or

C- cut the 'LG/R' wire and just send the new switch's signal to the starter, this becomes the only way to start up.

here is the clutch switch in question, the other is to dis-able the cruise control when you clutch.

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Here is the next problem:

There are two wires coming out of the lower clutch switch. One is green/red/white and the other is blue/white.

I tried to connect my start button to both of them by scraping the plastic off the wire and attach my wire with a crocodile clamp. Non of them worked. Do you know what the problem could be.
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 11:33 AM
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Wires......

Sounds like wrong pin out.
1- Check that the start button sends out 12v when pushed, ign on.
2- Take power from a footwell fuse to the bottom clutch switch wires, one must work.

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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 11:43 AM
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I am sorry but where and what is the footwell fuse?
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 12:30 PM
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Has anyone made this work beside Stealth_TL?
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 09:10 PM
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I am happy to say that I solved my problem. I had a faulty wire that caused the problem. Now I have a cool engine start button installed.
Thank you Stealth_TL. It took you 1 hour, it took me 2 days
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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There's one difference that I would like to share. I have two wires coming out of the clutch switch. If I connect the start engine button to the red/white/green wire, the engine starts without pushing the clutch. If I connect the button to the blue/white wire, nothing happens.

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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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so does the lighter hole need to be bigger for the start button to fit? or do u just plug it in the existing one? *confused*
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 12:12 PM
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Holes....

(Good to see you "got 'er done!" faffy!)

The lighter hole has to be trimmed, just a little to fit the little reinforcing ridges on the back of the Honda button.

The trim does not affect the fit of the stock lighter, if you want to put it back.

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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 12:40 PM
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thanks for the reply stealth...btw wat tools did you use to do the trimming?
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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Dremel......

I used a rechargeable Dremel grinder to open the hole, just a little, but a round file would do fine - there's not a lot to remove.

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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 07:04 AM
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StealthTL, I bought an S2000 button from Ebay (from http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWN%3AIT) Button+Relè.
I have a 6MT Mazda Rx-8. Can you help me in installing it? I tried to install it but I didn't succes in it. I find these schemes (look pics).
1) I install the buttom: Connect 1 to 85 of relè.
2) Connect 2 to +12v
3) Connect 3 to ground (-pole)
Now the problem is the relè:
4) I connect 86 to ground
5) I connect 85 to button
6) witch wire shall I connect to 30 - 87a point?
7) Witch wire shall I connect to 87 pont?
I'd like to start the car either with the key either with the button
or
It it's impossible, only with the button excluding key.
I DON'T want push clutch to start the car! I have a manual Trasmission
Can you help me?
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 08:20 AM
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Post Harder......

You are making this too complicated for yourself, and you are using the Honda instructions on a Mazda!

You don't need that relay.

Your harness is totally different than the one in your pictures.

The "back of the switch" picture is all you need - the wire marked '2' is your power, from the lighter.
The '3' wire goes to a good ground.
...and the '1' wire goes to the switch at the bottom of your clutch travel, with the white plunger.

The 'green/red/white' wire goes to the starter relay, if you cut it the new switch will be the only way to start, if you just splice in, the key still works, and if you splice into the other(blue/white) wire, you would still need to push the clutch in.

Done, no relays, no farting around. :o

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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 10:05 AM
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ok I'll try but how can I splice in that wires?
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 11:00 AM
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Splice......

You could use one of these, if you have never used one you should get a mechanic to do it.

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