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DIY: Mazda Zoom Power Engine Cleaner (Engine Cleaning, Seaform)

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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by kersh4w
you scratch your steering wheel a lot doncha?

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seriously, what is the gray area hiding in the first pic? a dead body?
DONT EVEN MENTION THE SCRATCHES !!!!!

If its me I admit ... but its not .... dont ask me how and why !

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First pic? Its just the cleaner on the floor ?
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by r-enzyme
You mean like an old windex bottle (rinsed out of course) or something similar?
whatever is fine. as long as it can get the job done, right ?
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 06:41 PM
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how'd you get all those scratches?????


how long did the car smoke for afterwards?
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 11:08 PM
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Well, about 2-3 minutes. Enough to kill someone
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 11:17 AM
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wonder if I should just do this or go the route of Seafoam? (inserting via spark plug and letting it sit overnight) hmm....
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 02:44 PM
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I think this might be easier, at least you dont have to jack your car up to do it.

Well, U can still pour Seafoam into the nipple. Or just get a spray bottle and spray it in.
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 10:06 PM
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Why don't you just flash the Valet mode to your RX8 Jedi.......

Then complain about loss of power.

They'll go WTF!!??

They do the TSB and flash. you will be good to go!

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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 10:12 PM
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they can't flash our cars when an AP map is on there.
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 11:41 PM
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then take the AP map out.
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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 07:32 AM
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I used the Seafoam, The method is the same with a couple of exceptions. There is no need to pump it into the intake nipples
1. Pour 2oz of Seafoam into a cup
2. Attached flexible tube to nipple (not yours, the car's!)
3. Other end of the hose in cup
4. follow all the other steps


The intake creates enough vacuum to pull the Seafoam out of the cup. Just "start" the car 10 seconds at a time. I found after the 10 seconds the cup would not be completely empty but the vacuum would continue until the cup was finished

The picture of the smoke out the exhaust, just doesn't do it justice



Originally Posted by r-enzyme
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but picked up some seafoam from an auto parts store and there is no spraying mechanism included. It's just a bottle of liquid. Will I still be able to use this DIY or do I need to be able to spray the stuff?
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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 03:18 PM
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any tips how to make cel go away after that?
car drives normally just that light is annoying

Nevermind. Took it for a spin and light went off after starting again.

Btw mazda tbs tells you to connect that thingie on top after you are done reving.
I went after mazda tbs but I connected it before starting.

Next week I pour it into sparkplugs holes

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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by nycgps
start spraying the cleaner for about 10 to 15 seconds, after 10-15 seconds, YELL at the person so he/she stops cranking the engine, at the same time stop spraying the cleaner.
I'd stick with the 10 seconds in the TSB. Doing this 4 times, overheating of the starter motor is a concern. This is probably also why the 1 minute rest in between.

Give a few quick Full throttle Rev to 6K rpm or so. Rev it to Redline if you want to, thats what I did
Per TSB, rev to 6k, then immediately let off the gas, and do this TWENTY TIMES, not a few. I speculate this is to exercise the apex seals in their slots and dislodge any carbon loosened by the cleaner.

Not that I followed the script exactly either. I used Seafoam and I disconnected the plugs instead of the damn eccentric connector.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by r-enzyme
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but picked up some seafoam from an auto parts store and there is no spraying mechanism included. It's just a bottle of liquid. Will I still be able to use this DIY or do I need to be able to spray the stuff?
Auto-parts store or garden center will carry a large syringe which is used to measure 2-stroke oil for mixing. It's cheap and has measuring markings on the side. This is what I used to divide the seafoam "doses" and deliver them into the manifold nipple, using a short piece of plastic tubing. For the 16 oz can, I used 2 oz. "doses" This left me with exactly 8 oz, for the next time .
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 12:33 AM
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thanks nycgps!

pics help ^_^
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 12:45 AM
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Not that I followed the script exactly either. I used Seafoam and I disconnected the plugs instead of the damn eccentric connector.
If you didn't disconnect the eshaft sensor, how did you make sure no fuel is being sprayed while you're cranking? Accelerator to the floor?
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 03:15 AM
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We need this in the DIY section and stickied
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Nubo
Not that I followed the script exactly either. I used Seafoam and I disconnected the plugs instead of the damn eccentric connector.
Not a good idea to just remove the plug wires. You need to disable ignition and fuel injection and this does not do that. As an alternative to removing the ES Position Sensor Connector, I believe you can remove all the EGI fuses (3?) in the main fuse box to accomplish the same thing as removing the ES connector.

Another way to access the ES Position Sensor Connector is from under the car. Jack up the left side of the car, install jack stand, crawl under the car and reach up in front of the engine and remove the connector by "pinching" the top of the connector and pulling up on it. Works for me. However, if you have "fat" hands you may not be able to use this approach.
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by RotorWheeee
I used the Seafoam, The method is the same with a couple of exceptions. There is no need to pump it into the intake nipples
1. Pour 2oz of Seafoam into a cup
2. Attached flexible tube to nipple (not yours, the car's!)
3. Other end of the hose in cup
4. follow all the other steps


The intake creates enough vacuum to pull the Seafoam out of the cup. Just "start" the car 10 seconds at a time. I found after the 10 seconds the cup would not be completely empty but the vacuum would continue until the cup was finished

The picture of the smoke out the exhaust, just doesn't do it justice
That would work.

Originally Posted by Nubo
I'd stick with the 10 seconds in the TSB. Doing this 4 times, overheating of the starter motor is a concern. This is probably also why the 1 minute rest in between.
I dont really worry about my Starter, but For those who worry about it, they can let it rest for a minute or 2 before cranking it again.

I think they should worry about their battery more IMO.

Per TSB, rev to 6k, then immediately let off the gas, and do this TWENTY TIMES, not a few. I speculate this is to exercise the apex seals in their slots and dislodge any carbon loosened by the cleaner.
Maybe, I dont know.

You can do twenty times, but I think pushing it to 9K might be a better idea

Not that I followed the script exactly either. I used Seafoam and I disconnected the plugs instead of the damn eccentric connector.
You need to cut fuel injection ...

Originally Posted by Go48
Not a good idea to just remove the plug wires. You need to disable ignition and fuel injection and this does not do that. As an alternative to removing the ES Position Sensor Connector, I believe you can remove all the EGI fuses (3?) in the main fuse box to accomplish the same thing as removing the ES connector.

Another way to access the ES Position Sensor Connector is from under the car. Jack up the left side of the car, install jack stand, crawl under the car and reach up in front of the engine and remove the connector by "pinching" the top of the connector and pulling up on it. Works for me. However, if you have "fat" hands you may not be able to use this approach.
I cant do it underneath, tried and fail.

I got *fat* hands

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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 03:39 PM
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doing this to 2 rx-8's right now, that Eccentric Shaft sensor is a #$@#@ pain in the *** to get to!

I ended up removing the maf tubing on my car since I'm also cleaning my RB filter and it did give me a little room but the hardest part is twisting your arm around enough to apply pressure on the tab that releases the sensor.


Waiting 2 hours now... will report back later.
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 08:12 PM
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DONE.

1st car threw 2 CEL's: Eccentric Shaft and misfire

My car = NO CEL's.

Strange.

Cars running good, not as much smoke as I thought I was going to get.
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
doing this to 2 rx-8's right now, that Eccentric Shaft sensor is a #$@#@ pain in the *** to get to!

I ended up removing the maf tubing on my car since I'm also cleaning my RB filter and it did give me a little room but the hardest part is twisting your arm around enough to apply pressure on the tab that releases the sensor.


Waiting 2 hours now... will report back later.
Didnt I told ya all THAT WILL happen ! :P

good that it works. CEL should go away after a while
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 11:00 PM
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I already used my Jedi powers (aka Scanalyzer) to get rid of the CEL's.
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 02:09 AM
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this sounds like a good idea. in spite of my last little problem last week, i think i will do this. make sure she is all clean and good to go!
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 07:30 AM
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Im going to jack my car up today cuz I need to set my suspension higher. Broke my bumper the other day, grrr NYC roads ...

then Im gonna clean my engine for the *2nd* time hohoho ~
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 10:56 AM
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probably a really stupid question...but when cranking the engine do u have to depress the clutch?
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