What the '8 is capable of...
12-12-2004, 09:49 PM
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I have had mine since November 2003. It just gets better everyday. I made some changes to it though. In fact, once it is done, it may be a bit challenging for anyone at first glance to realize that it is an RX8.
By February 2004, except for a roll bar and racing seats for a harness system, the car will be totally ready for the track.
Out came the stock exhaust, in went a B&B Cat back and racing pipe (no more cat). HP went way up. Also got a spectacular 15ft flaming back flash out the pipes when a shifted at full rev 9400RPM.
Out came the stock flywheel and clutch, in went a 9.5lb flywheel and super heavy duty racing clutch. Hp went up.
In went a Special piggyback ECU from Canzoomer to I could tune the car and create my own maps. Performance and HP way up. Lost the 15ft back fire from the super rich mix from the stock map, but I can live without the fireworks. Oh, the back fire effect will happen on any RX8 once the cat is removed, assuming you run it up to max red line before you shift.
Soon, the hood will be replaced with a vented racing hood. Side skirts and rear bumper will be replaced with blue mint racing aro body parts.
Final adjustments will be heavy duty custom re-enforces tower struts front and rear, and chassis reinforcements under bracing front and rear, racing shocks and springs, short throw shift kit and a full set of vented racing breaks. The stock breaks work perfect on the track, but they do warp after a day of breaking from 140mph to bring the car down to 40mph to make corners at the end of the straight away. Racing Breaks will reduce the warping problem.
Anything else. Well yes as a matter of fact, tinting of the windows and when it come out, a supercharge that the developer promises will boost HP aprox 200hp or stock.
Oh where is the HP on mine after import detuning has been overcome. Oh aprox. 245PH at 6600RPM. What the hp is at 9500hp who knows. All I know is that my RX8 now does 0-60 about 4.8secs. and about 13.8 to 14.5 in the 1/4 depending on how I start. Temp on the any of the runs also makes a difference.
All this from a car everyone says is under hp and no torque. Well if a car that has low hp and little torque can do what mine does, how fast can it go if the HP it dynoed say at 250 at 6600. That’s right, already have one that does that.
I say forget the dyno, take the car to the track and see if anyone can out run you. I did. Guess what. (I took race track driving school and am licensed to drive on race tracks) In the corners, the RX8 is king. Now with the car re-tuned to remove the import limitation requirements by the US EPA, the opposition said the RX8 just walks away from the competition in the straight always.
When the car is done it will not be the same RX8 that I bought in 2003. It will be mine RX8. We affectingly named the car the “Black Dragon” for the flames it through when we first took out the cat. It doesn’t breath fire anymore, but it does burn up the track. Even better.
Yes I will post before and after pictures when it is complete.
What does all this add up too. The RX8 is number one.
Do I like my RX8? ZOOM ZOOM, see you in my rear view.
By February 2004, except for a roll bar and racing seats for a harness system, the car will be totally ready for the track.
Out came the stock exhaust, in went a B&B Cat back and racing pipe (no more cat). HP went way up. Also got a spectacular 15ft flaming back flash out the pipes when a shifted at full rev 9400RPM.
Out came the stock flywheel and clutch, in went a 9.5lb flywheel and super heavy duty racing clutch. Hp went up.
In went a Special piggyback ECU from Canzoomer to I could tune the car and create my own maps. Performance and HP way up. Lost the 15ft back fire from the super rich mix from the stock map, but I can live without the fireworks. Oh, the back fire effect will happen on any RX8 once the cat is removed, assuming you run it up to max red line before you shift.
Soon, the hood will be replaced with a vented racing hood. Side skirts and rear bumper will be replaced with blue mint racing aro body parts.
Final adjustments will be heavy duty custom re-enforces tower struts front and rear, and chassis reinforcements under bracing front and rear, racing shocks and springs, short throw shift kit and a full set of vented racing breaks. The stock breaks work perfect on the track, but they do warp after a day of breaking from 140mph to bring the car down to 40mph to make corners at the end of the straight away. Racing Breaks will reduce the warping problem.
Anything else. Well yes as a matter of fact, tinting of the windows and when it come out, a supercharge that the developer promises will boost HP aprox 200hp or stock.
Oh where is the HP on mine after import detuning has been overcome. Oh aprox. 245PH at 6600RPM. What the hp is at 9500hp who knows. All I know is that my RX8 now does 0-60 about 4.8secs. and about 13.8 to 14.5 in the 1/4 depending on how I start. Temp on the any of the runs also makes a difference.
All this from a car everyone says is under hp and no torque. Well if a car that has low hp and little torque can do what mine does, how fast can it go if the HP it dynoed say at 250 at 6600. That’s right, already have one that does that.
I say forget the dyno, take the car to the track and see if anyone can out run you. I did. Guess what. (I took race track driving school and am licensed to drive on race tracks) In the corners, the RX8 is king. Now with the car re-tuned to remove the import limitation requirements by the US EPA, the opposition said the RX8 just walks away from the competition in the straight always.
When the car is done it will not be the same RX8 that I bought in 2003. It will be mine RX8. We affectingly named the car the “Black Dragon” for the flames it through when we first took out the cat. It doesn’t breath fire anymore, but it does burn up the track. Even better.
Yes I will post before and after pictures when it is complete.
What does all this add up too. The RX8 is number one.
Do I like my RX8? ZOOM ZOOM, see you in my rear view.
12-13-2004, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DCSBlack Knight
Oh where is the HP on mine after import detuning has been overcome. Oh aprox. 245PH at 6600RPM. What the hp is at 9500hp who knows. All I know is that my RX8 now does 0-60 about 4.8secs. and about 13.8 to 14.5 in the 1/4 depending on how I start. Temp on the any of the runs also makes a difference.
12-13-2004, 09:24 PM
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To answer Omicron’s question. The HP was tested on a dyno at about 55f. The 0-60 was on the drag strip at pacific international raceway, and the racing is a combination of Portland International raceway and Pacific International raceway. We have a bit more fine tuning to do. Since you want posted graphs, next time I will turn them into PDFs and post them.
I did learn from all this that the RX8s delivers to the US are tuned entirely different that the RX8s in Japan. Due to the requirements of the US EPA, and all the other limitations imposed by the US government, it seems quite clear that no RX8 on the show room floor will be able to perform to its fullest potential until those of us who are willing, do what is required to unlock the RX8 potential. However, the FACT that the RX8 team took 1st overall in SCCA touring class, 1st year on the market should tell everyone to look out, Rotary Power is back with a vengeance.
As I promised, once the project is complete, I will provide before and after info so those who want to unleash their RX8 will have something to work from. After all, this is no RX7, this is something brand new. There may be even more surprises in store for all of us in the coming year.
I did learn from all this that the RX8s delivers to the US are tuned entirely different that the RX8s in Japan. Due to the requirements of the US EPA, and all the other limitations imposed by the US government, it seems quite clear that no RX8 on the show room floor will be able to perform to its fullest potential until those of us who are willing, do what is required to unlock the RX8 potential. However, the FACT that the RX8 team took 1st overall in SCCA touring class, 1st year on the market should tell everyone to look out, Rotary Power is back with a vengeance.
As I promised, once the project is complete, I will provide before and after info so those who want to unleash their RX8 will have something to work from. After all, this is no RX7, this is something brand new. There may be even more surprises in store for all of us in the coming year.
12-14-2004, 11:27 AM
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A 4.8 0-60mph. I would think your 1/4 mile times would be closer to 13.2, or so...
All very interesting, though. Awaiting your PDF's.
All very interesting, though. Awaiting your PDF's.
12-14-2004, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by DCSBlack Knight
Out came the stock flywheel and clutch, in went a 9.5lb flywheel and super heavy duty racing clutch. Hp went up.
This line right here makes me suspect this guy is full of shi-..er..'crap'.
Nobody who is serious about tuning, or has a clue about tuning suggests lighter flywheels 'make HP go up'.
ESPECIALLY on a dyno, where a 4th or 5th gear dyno pull wouldn't show much if ANY gain with a lightened Flywheel.
12-14-2004, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DCSBlack Knight
Oh where is the HP on mine after import detuning has been overcome. Oh aprox. 245PH at 6600RPM. What the hp is at 9500hp who knows. All I know is that my RX8 now does 0-60 about 4.8secs. and about 13.8 to 14.5 in the 1/4 depending on how I start. Temp on the any of the runs also makes a difference.
Nobody dyno's an RX8 and quits at 6600rpms. RX8s can run 14.5 STOCK.
I smell bs....
I hope I'm wrong, and the poor grammar, and inaccurate statements are honest mistakes....
...calling it as I see it.
12-14-2004, 12:02 PM
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Before everyone calls BS, let's give the man the chance to explain and provide proof. At least there are people out there with money that have a chance to experiment.
Despite the couple flags, very encouraging reading that post. I am proud to be an American... err.. i mean an RX8 owner. Remember, he is just another RX8 member here trying to inform others.
Despite the couple flags, very encouraging reading that post. I am proud to be an American... err.. i mean an RX8 owner. Remember, he is just another RX8 member here trying to inform others.
12-14-2004, 12:18 PM
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Exciting to hear!! BTW, are you in WA? Since you mention Pacific International Raceway..
245PH at 6600RPM sounds great.. that means you will have approximately 195 ft/lb of torque at 6600 rpm and likely even more torque at lower rpm.
245PH at 6600RPM sounds great.. that means you will have approximately 195 ft/lb of torque at 6600 rpm and likely even more torque at lower rpm.
12-14-2004, 03:00 PM
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Maybe his 1/4 mi times are poor because he thinks his peak HP is at 6600 and he shifts there. Or maybe he doesn't own a rotary at all and is mistaking his Mustang for one.
edit: had to correct that statment as to 1/4 instead of 0-60,
edit: had to correct that statment as to 1/4 instead of 0-60,
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12-14-2004, 03:36 PM
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I agree with much of the skepticism...I just don't want to scare the guy away. Give him some time for dialogue and to provide his proof.
12-14-2004, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
Maybe his 0-60 times are low because he thinks his peak HP is at 6600 and he shifts there. Or maybe he doesn't own a rotary at all and is mistaking it for his Mustang.
I'm afraid he's already gone...
