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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 04:08 PM
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Super stupid question: Why does our header have 3 runners (primary pipes)?

As the title says...

I know the 8 have the 13B-MSP engine (aka RENESIS), I also know it's a birotor.

What I don't understant is why the headers I saw here and there (I put the beautifull AutoExe one here as an example) have 3 runners... I mean, 2 rotors, 2 runners no?



Thanks for the replys... and I know i'm stupid.
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 04:14 PM
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because we have three ports...

the center port is a siamese port...two into one...
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 10:04 PM
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mmm two into one.
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by eviltwinkie
because we have three ports...

the center port is a siamese port...two into one...
So the Front & Rear Rotor both expell into on runner on the header?
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by WoodsOfGreenRx8
So the Front & Rear Rotor both expell into on runner on the header?
Just the middle one, its for a more efficient evacuation of the rotors during the exhaust phase. I believe testing has shown that the middle one produces more heat than the other two, probably safe to say that it flows a bit more also.
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 11:49 PM
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because we have 3 exhaust ports ?

Think of a sandwich, 3 piece of bread, 2 pieces of meat.

B = Bread , M = Meat

B - M - B - M - B

Think of the Bread in the middle, compare to the other 2 pieces, the middle piece will absorb more meat juice than the other.

This is how the exhaust port looks like.

E = Exhaust , R = Rotor (or you can say Exhaust = housing, but lets keep it simple)

E - R - E - R - E

Same idea.

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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 12:00 AM
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Mmmmm.... exhaust meat....
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by WoodsOfGreenRx8
So the Front & Rear Rotor both expell into on runner on the header?
Yes...they share that port...

Originally Posted by Rootski
Mmmmm.... exhaust meat....
I'm much more interested in the intake meat...but hey...whatever floats your boat you know...
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by kersh4w
mmm two into one.
Originally Posted by nycgps
Think of a sandwich...
Originally Posted by Rootski
Mmmmm.... exhaust meat....
Originally Posted by eviltwinkie
Yes...they share that port...
All right people, enough innuendo..
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 01:32 AM
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It's not a stupid question!! At least you asked yourself...I never tought about that, but now I know! thank you!
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 01:32 AM
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you missed bi rotor.. that would explain the meat in the sandwich.


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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by swoope
you missed bi rotor.. that would explain the meat in the sandwich.


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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 08:13 AM
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Thanx for all the reply guys!

... Now i'm gonna make myself a goooood sandwich!
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Yan
Thanx for all the reply guys!

... Now i'm gonna make myself a goooood sandwich!
Wow...for the first time...I think I'm confused...

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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 09:34 AM
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if only that header didn't cost an arm, leg, and your first born child... i mean i'll happily give them my first born child, but missing an arm and a leg would severly limit my driving pleasure.
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 09:35 AM
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this thread is a good reason why I don't post that much anymore...
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Keef
this thread is a good reason why I don't post that much anymore...
then you should chance your title thingi...

because your not a **** starter at all...

and i kinda was hoping to see you start some ****...

but your outta **** to start with it seems...
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Keef
this thread is a good reason why I don't post that much anymore...
WTF is your problem?

I did a research here (I admit I didn't write it in my first post), found nothing valuable, I did a research on the NET (Wiki, Mazsport, etc), and I found nothing good enough.

I wanted a technical answer and I got it: The middle port is a siamese one.

Now go back to your "non-typing-mode", you will do everybody a favor here.
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Keef
this thread is a good reason why I don't post that much anymore...
What's the problem with it? People actually answered the guy's question. That's the way it's supposed to be. He didn't know and that's OK. We're supposed to be here to help. Not everyone knows everything. It only turned to crap with your post which is not the way it's supposed to be. Contribute or don't post. It's really a simple concept.
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Yan
WTF is your problem?
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Now go back to your "non-typing-mode", you will do everybody a favor here.
Originally Posted by rotarygod
What's the problem with it?
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It's really a simple concept.
Wow keef...I stand corrected...good job! You sir are indeed a **** starter!
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 01:27 PM
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they have three pipes because most people still haven't figured out that this kind of header doesn't accomplish anything on a Renesis that can't be gotten out of a log manifold
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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What he really wanted to know wasn't why the header had 3 pipes as much as he wanted to know why does the engine have 3 exhaust ports and not 4.
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 01:36 PM
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I still like nycgps's Big Mac analogy.

Actually, given the rotary's centrifugal exhaust stream, the takeoffs are more efficient than a log type.

Originally Posted by TeamRX8
they have three pipes because most people still haven't figured out that this kind of header doesn't accomplish anything on a Renesis that can't be gotten out of a log manifold

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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 03:35 PM
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hahaha, I guess I did start some chit...

I learned from howstuffworks.com why there are 3 exhaust ports, that was before I owned an Rx-8... Not trying to hate, just being the middle grounds between those that say "you dumb" and those that simply answer...

Edit: Also, seems since I've iconed myself to be the "**** starter" a lot less **** has been thrown around... Yay! Exactly what I originally wanted... I've iconed myself to be the opposite! Pwn the system!

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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by eviltwinkie

I'm much more interested in the intake meat...but hey...whatever floats your boat you know...


http://www.topgear.com/content/news/stories/2566/
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