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speeddemon32 05-18-2006 11:05 AM

Spring springs springs
 
I just wanted to get a thread with ALL the spring data in ONE location to make it easy on everyone.

Price and Link check / update on 4-10-09

Take A look at this thread for pictures of some of these springs ON cars https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-multimedia-photo-gallery-6/%7C%7C-hey-l00k-lowering-springs-%7C%7C-158035/

stock sport I verified these spring rates on post number 97 of this thred
Front drop 0"
Front rate 156 lb
Rear Drop 0"
Rear rate 113 lb
$ 0


Drop Zone
Front drop 1.8"
Front rate ? lb
Rear Drop 1.8"
Rear rate ? lb
$150 (on sale for $130) http://www.gripmotorsports.com/pi~pn...port-3182.html


Sprint Please read post # 130 of this thread.
Front drop 2"
Front rate 187 - 202 lb (20-30% as advertised by manafacture) Please read post # 130 of this thread. (I tested it with 180).
Rear Drop 2"
Rear rate 135 - 147 lb (20-30% as advertised by manafacture) Please read post # 130 of this thread. (I tested it with 100).
$ 228 http://www.racinglab.com/mazda-sprints-springs-012.html


Intrax
Front drop 1.3"
Front rate ? lb
Rear Drop .9"
Rear rate ? lb
$223 no more links right now... please feel free to post one.


Eibach Pro
Front drop 1.2"
Front rate 180 lb Progressive
Rear Drop .8"
Rear rate 130 lb Progressive
$230 http://www.modacar.com/products/Mazd...+Pro+Kit+.html
or
$269 http://www.rx7store.net/product_p/eibachrx8.htm
or
$253 http://www.drivewire.com/products/ma...ing-kit/18448/
or
$320 https://www.fluidmotorsports.com/p-8...s-springs.aspx


Racing Beat
Front drop .5"
Front rate 187 lb
Rear Drop .5"
Rear rate 136 lb
$230 http://www.good-win-racing.com/mazda.../20R-1098.html
or
$240 http://www.rx7store.net/product_p/rbspringsrx8.htm
or
$240 https://www.fluidmotorsports.com/p-8...s-springs.aspx


TEIN S.TECH
Front drop 1.4"
Front rate 207 lb
Rear Drop .7"
Rear rate 145 lb
$185 http://www.modacar.com/products/Mazd....+Tech+Sp.html
or
$196 http://www.raceinspired.com/ps-1185-...8-2004-up.aspx
or
$235 https://www.fluidmotorsports.com/p-8...s-springs.aspx


TEIN H.TECH
Front drop 1"
Front rate 179 lb
Rear Drop .3"
Rear rate 129 lb
$203 http://www.raceinspired.com/ps-1283-...8-2004-up.aspx
or
$215 https://www.fluidmotorsports.com/p-8...s-springs.aspx


H&R Sport
Front drop 1.25"
Front rate 195 lb Progressive
Rear Drop 1.25"
Rear rate 141 lb Progressive
$240 http://www.rx7store.net/product_p/hrpringsrx8.htm
or
$230 http://corksport.com/store/category/...uspension.html
or
$255 https://www.fluidmotorsports.com/p-8...s-springs.aspx


AUTOE EXE
Front drop .75"
Front rate ? lb
Rear Drop .75"
Rear rate ? lb
$345 http://corksport.com/store/category/...uspension.html
or
$380 http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/p...oducts_id/2672


FEED Sport
Front drop ? "
Front rate ? lb
Rear Drop ? "
Rear rate ? lb
$351 http://corksport.com/store/category/...uspension.html


Pettit (Custom made Eibach) I called for spring rates.... they dont know.
Front drop 1.25 "
Front rate ? lb
Rear Drop 1.25 "
Rear rate ? lb
$250 http://www.pettitracing.com/rx8/index_suspension.htm (I NO LONGER SEE THEM ON THEIR SITE)


Mazdaspeed Please read post number 100 of this thread!
Front drop .8 "
Front rate 170 lb Please read post # 100 of this thread.
Rear Drop .8 "
Rear rate 100 lb Please read post # 100 of this thread.
$380 http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/p...oducts_id/2674
or
$ .... I am told Fluid Motorsports sells them, but I cant find them on their site... here is a link anyways. https://www.fluidmotorsports.com/p-8...s-springs.aspx


Espelir
Front drop 1.2 "
Front rate 210 lb
Rear Drop 1.2 "
Rear rate 150 lb
$220 http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/p...oducts_id/4824


RE-AMEMIYA
Front drop 1.4 "
Front rate ? lb
Rear Drop 1.4 "
Rear rate ? lb
$410 http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/p...oducts_id/6128


Tanabe GF
Front drop 1.4 "
Front rate 179 lb
Rear Drop 1.2 "
Rear rate 146 lb
$190 https://www.fluidmotorsports.com/p-8...s-springs.aspx


Tanabe NF
Front drop 1.4 "
Front rate 162 lb
Rear Drop 1.2 "
Rear rate 112 lb
$190 https://www.fluidmotorsports.com/p-8...s-springs.aspx


SpringTech
Front drop 1.75 "
Front rate ? lb
Rear Drop 1.75 "
Rear rate ? lb
$135 http://www.ebay.com


ICR
Front drop 1.25 "
Front rate ? lb
Rear Drop 1.25 "
Rear rate ? lb
$360 http://www.shaneracing.com/RX8_Perfo...ion_Parts.html


Swift
Front drop .8 "
Front rate 207 lb
Rear Drop .8 "
Rear rate 90-129 lb (progressive rears)
$300 http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/Me...&Store_Code=EM


Vogland
Front drop 1 "
Front rate 120 lb (This rate was tested by myself)
Rear Drop 1 "
Rear rate 100 lb (This rate was tested by myself)
$199 http://www.pettitracing.com/rx8/index_suspension.htm


B&G
Front drop 1.3 "
Front rate ? 185
Rear Drop .9 "
Rear rate 142 lb
$225 "on Sale" https://www.fluidmotorsports.com/p-8...s-springs.aspx
or
$216 http://www.drivewire.com/bg-suspensi...da/mazda-rx-8/

Red Devil 05-18-2006 11:13 AM

I think it was Fanman, but someone did a pretty good thread about Springs a while back, you could either link to that one or use it to build on this one.

speeddemon32 05-18-2006 11:19 AM

thanks, Ill look for that thread. I did a small search before I started and I did not find anything, but I could have searched harder then I did. :)

I think a swaybar swaybar swaybar thread is next :)

ROTORLUTION Racing 05-18-2006 03:27 PM

Thats a lot of springs!

kwescott 05-18-2006 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by speeddemon32
thanks, Ill look for that thread. I did a small search before I started and I did not find anything, but I could have searched harder then I did. :)

I think a swaybar swaybar swaybar thread is next :)

DMP (A vendor) has posted spring rates in several threads. I'll try and find that one and put a link here:

Here's the info
All numbers taken either from the manufacturer, or from other posts on this forum. Some we can verify, and a few we can't. Just keep that in mind. . .

Stock 'Sport' Suspension spring rates on the RX-8 are 156/113 (F/R)
Mazdaspeed: 280/190
Tein S-Tech: 207/145
Tein H-Tech: 179/129
Tanabe GF: 179/146
Tanabe NF: 162/112
Racing Beat: 187/136
Eibach: 180/130 (progressive, so this varies a bit)
H&R: 195/141 (progressive, so this varies a bit)


As for the question on coilovers, all aftermarket adjustable 'coilovers' come with a shock and spring. The more expensive ones also come with the upper mount, usually of the 'pillowball' variety (a spherical metal bushing in a metal plate rather than the rubber top mounts that most cars use from the factory). Tein Basics, for example, re-use the OEM top mounts and a few of the small hardware bits. Tein Flex do not re-use any of the OEM coilover assembly. The aftermarket coilovers also come with proprietary springs, so one would never use their OEM springs with their new coilovers. Hopefully that makes sense?

Heres the link
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-wheels-tires-brakes-suspension-55/eibach-tein-tanabe-mazdaspeed-69256/

speeddemon32 05-18-2006 05:06 PM

updated.... thanks!

kwescott 05-22-2006 01:15 AM

SpringTech

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SPRIN...66738012QQrdZ1

swoope 05-22-2006 01:31 AM

here is the link to all the info... with drops.... and yes i reqested it all be in one place.....

https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...53&postcount=1

so search, search, search might have been better....

the info is out there...

beers :beer:

speeddemon32 05-22-2006 10:27 AM

yeah i know, I saw that post already. but if you look at my list, there are a lot more info in my list.

also, my list has prices. so maybe read read read is what you should do. :)

i like my list better...... so there. :bootyshak :)

kwescott 05-22-2006 10:40 AM

time to add a second column so that the first post doesn't scroll all the way down the page. Maybe put them in alphabetical order.

swoope 05-22-2006 07:21 PM

ok,
i will bite... the prices are for where??? are these retail??? ebay. pulled out of your ass????? :eek: :)

unless you link to the price they are worthless....

the info is good but been done.... i am happy that you are thrilled with your thread.....

just like flywheels flywheels flywheels.... it is helpful, but the info is already there....

what is next washer fluid washer fluid washer fluid????

btw, i have read, read, read. that is how i know where this stuff is:wallbash:

beers :beer:

speeddemon32 05-22-2006 11:38 PM

and I am happy you have no problem with finding the info by searching through multiple threads. I thought I would be a nice guy and put all the info in the same F#$in place, so that people that are interested in getting a lot of info in one single constanty updated post. (not just thread)

I have been told by several people that they are thankfull someone finally put ALL info in ONE thread. as I said before, there are other threads that are close, but a lot of them are missing some info. like the spring thread you just posted, it only has 9 springs, mine has 18. if you can count that means I have TWICE as much info as your all mighty thread you posted.

Just as much info as the link you posted, AND MORE.

seriously man, if you dont like the fact that I put all the info in one place, dont look in my threads. is it really that hard for you to just keep to your self? I mean come on, what did I do to you? does this thread really bother you that much?

if you have a problem with the places I got the prices, or simply would like me to add a link, all you have to do is ask. not tell me how stupid this thread is without a link. but since searching the entire internet for info is what you like to do, then why dont you just search for the prices I posted?

swoope 05-23-2006 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by speeddemon32
and I am happy you have no problem with finding the info by searching through multiple threads. I thought I would be a nice guy and put all the info in the same F#$in place, so that people that are interested in getting a lot of info in one single constanty updated post. (not just thread)

I have been told by several people that they are thankfull someone finally put ALL info in ONE thread. as I said before, there are other threads that are close, but a lot of them are missing some info. like the spring thread you just posted, it only has 9 springs, mine has 18. if you can count that means I have TWICE as much info as your all mighty thread you posted.

Just as much info as the link you posted, AND MORE.

seriously man, if you dont like the fact that I put all the info in one place, dont look in my threads. is it really that hard for you to just keep to your self? I mean come on, what did I do to you? does this thread really bother you that much?

if you have a problem with the places I got the prices, or simply would like me to add a link, all you have to do is ask. not tell me how stupid this thread is without a link. but since searching the entire internet for info is what you like to do, then why dont you just search for the prices I posted?

wow,
the copys from dpe have been given twice...

still you have not bothered to upgrade anything...

still losts of ? drop

more ? spring rate... before you ? me. you should update you shit.... two of us have given you .75% of the info...

it is out there, if you are going to make a total collection do it....

right now you are lacking....

and once again... the prices come from where?

beers :beer:

you want to be the big dog??? lead....

but so far the two links make you late and lazy...

tiggerlee 05-23-2006 12:08 AM

:yesnod:

speeddemon32 05-23-2006 10:12 AM

ok I must be missing something then. in the link you posted https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...953&postcount=1
there is nothing on that list I dont have on my list already...... so what are you talking about?

yes my list is not perfect yet, that is the point in letting everyone add what they know so I can add it all to the list...... just like when Kwescott added springtech, now springtech is on the list.

yes there is a lot of "?" marks. but that is because I have not seen any info on that. by all means if you have more info feel free to add. if not, shut up. :nono:

I never claimed trying to be the big dog, simply trying to put every spring in one location. I still dont see the harm in that. :bootyshak

kwescott 05-23-2006 10:59 AM

swoope could have accomplished the same goal by providing a suggestion for the thread, and that would be to post links next to prices. Rather, he took the easy way, sounding like a forum troll and making rediculous comments...this thread has been done, blah, blah, blah. This is not a discussion thread. If you don't find it useful, then don't subscribe. See yah around swoope.

speeddemon32 05-23-2006 11:07 AM

Amen brotha.... that's what i kept trying to say.
all he had to do is ask or suguest, and not be a pecker about it.

I even said several times that I was not done, but I had to start someplace.


anyways, more info has been added. if anyone has anything to add, just add it and I will update the first post.

tiggerlee 05-23-2006 04:23 PM

Do you guys also need someone to hold your hand while you piss too? :rolleyes:

SnowFl8k 05-23-2006 04:27 PM

can we get back to springs please?

speeddemon32 05-23-2006 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by tiggerlee
Do you guys also need someone to hold your hand while you piss too? :rolleyes:


what does that have to do with anything? do you post just to get your count up or something?

tiggerlee 05-23-2006 05:02 PM

yep! :p:

SnowFl8k 05-24-2006 12:42 AM

Hey - I should

SnowFl8k 05-24-2006 12:43 AM

Try that

SnowFl8k 05-24-2006 12:44 AM

too :angel:

swoope 05-24-2006 12:48 AM

wow,
gave you the link and you still have the drops wrong....

note. the tanabe springs can have only one drop.... not a range of drop.... they are not coilovers... (btw i gave you the link for the answer to the ? )

if you are going to be the god.... own up..

after you get that part fixed i will give you the next hint.

beers :beer:

speeddemon32 05-24-2006 10:07 AM

see that wasnt so hard was it. the web site that I found the info on had pretty genaric info. all you had to do from the start was point that out rather then make a big deal out of it.

you keep saying that i want to be top dog, or god...... please show me when I ever said that. you just dont get it do you. these threads are simply a place for EVERYONE to put the info that they know about a product IN THE SAME PLACE. i never claimed I knew everything, nor did I ever claim any of this info was not searchable on the internet... as I have said over and over and over to you. it is simply a place that you can find all the info IN THE SAME PLACE.

with that said, thank you for your contribution.

swoope 05-24-2006 09:52 PM

dont take me to serious... i for get to use the smileys...

i am very intersted in how you are going to do the sways thread.... as i know of no real way to rate them, other than diameter...

btw,
the eibach drop is 1.2 front and rear...

beers :beer:

speeddemon32 05-25-2006 09:39 AM

thank you, I thought 1.8 in the rear and only 1.2 in the front was a little odd. I wonder how what ever web site I found that on got those numbers??



sway bar post would be a little more difficult. I know I would have to use wall thickness, and Diamiter. I belive some are also making them shorter or longer by a bit..... i will look into that.

phillybudman 05-25-2006 10:01 AM

According to http://www.dpeweb.com/ProductDetails...3&vehicleID=58 drop for Tein H-Tech: Front = 1.0" Rear= 0.3" and their cost is $168.00.

speeddemon32 05-25-2006 10:07 AM

Thank you! Info has bee added.

FastRX8 05-26-2006 02:01 PM

QUALIFIED-JAPANESE-PARTS These guys on ebay charge $45 shipping & insurance for most of their stuff.

Tein S Tech - $150 includes shipping & insurance
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TEIN-...spagenameZWD1V

Tanabe GF - $240 includes shipping & insurance
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TANAB...9081QQtcZphoto

- Cesar -

speeddemon32 05-26-2006 03:16 PM

Look at you "Cesar the deal finder"! :)

FastRX8 05-30-2006 03:45 PM

I'm taking the plunge and ordering the Tein S Tech.
The reason I'm going with the Tein S Tech is because of the drops.
Front is 1.3" Rear is .7"
I have the stock springs now, and it looks like I lowered the rear because of the the speaker box and amp. If I get these, hopefully it will even it out a bit.

If anyone sees any reason why my RX8 and the Tein S Tech should not be joined together in holy suspension, speak now or forever hold your peace.

- Cesar -

kwescott 05-30-2006 03:53 PM

Do it....Make sure you take some good before and afters for the thread.

grinn253 05-30-2006 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by cesaralaniz
Tanabe GF - $240 includes shipping & insurance
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TANAB...9081QQtcZphoto

- Cesar -

Don't forget the forum vendors, DPE (where i received my GF springs) has the Tanabe GF210s for ~ $170, shipping was about $15.00. Phil has great customer service, helped answer my questions even during off business hours.:icon_tup:

Laters!
Edgardo

speeddemon32 05-31-2006 10:22 AM

Cesar, DO IT!!!!


Grinn. do you have a link for that so I can post it?

FastRX8 05-31-2006 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by speeddemon32
Cesar, DO IT!!!!


Grinn. do you have a link for that so I can post it?

I will order them today, now if only I could get someone to help me install them for a nominal fee... :wink2:

And here's the link for the DPE Tanabe.

GF210 - $170
http://www.dpeweb.com/ProductDetails...2&vehicleID=58

NF210 - $160
http://www.dpeweb.com/ProductDetails...3&vehicleID=58

- Cesar -

speeddemon32 05-31-2006 11:40 AM

thanks cesar, but that link is already up there. :)

nominal fee huh...... well, if you can convince Keith to come help, maybe you could just order us up some pizza and some beer and we can make a night out of it. :)

FastRX8 05-31-2006 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by speeddemon32
thanks cesar, but that link is already up there. :)

nominal fee huh...... well, if you can convince Keith to come help, maybe you could just order us up some pizza and some beer and we can make a night out of it. :)

Sorry - Fixed the links.

Pizza and beer it is :beerchug:

FastRX8 06-07-2006 09:49 AM

Springs installed.
 
Big Thanks to Speeddemon32 and Kwescott!
I asked Speeddemon32 and Kwescott for help to install the springs this week if possible since I may be able to make use of them this weekend.
Anyways, long story short...
The only night they could do it was Tuesday, but I had to be somewhere and couldn't help. Well, they took my car and did all the work. :rock: I bought the pizza and beer, and they did everything else.

I only drove to work this morning, and it's 90% highway so I haven't really felt a big difference yet. I did take a couple of right turns at about 30mph and it felt really solid.

Like I said, this weekend I'll put it to the test.

- Cesar -

speeddemon32 06-07-2006 11:32 AM

no prob bob.

hope you enjoy them. ;)

oh yeah, and dont forget.... not only did you buy pizza and beer, you also baught a new set of spring collapsers cause mine took a crap right in the middle of the first spring removal. :(

shinronin 06-08-2006 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by speeddemon32
made a flywheel and pulley thread, time for a spring thread

are all specified spring rates linear except otherwise noted (eibach, h&r)?

speeddemon32 06-08-2006 10:45 AM

to the best of my knowlage yes. ;)

kwescott 08-03-2006 08:06 PM

vivid racing says about the Espelir springs:

"They lower the front of the car about 1.5" and the rear about 1.3".

Razz1 08-03-2006 10:40 PM

what's the factory say?

8 Maniac 09-28-2006 11:42 PM

I dont know too much about this, so was wondering what the rates mean? higher lb = stiffer? :icon5:

kwescott 09-29-2006 01:15 AM

the rate is how much pressure ("weight") is needed to compress the spring one inch. So, a stiffer spring would have a higher weight needed to compress it...a softer spring would require less force....hope that helps you.

icyur2 09-29-2006 10:18 AM

Stupid question, but...in the future at some point, I would like to swap out my stock shocks/springs, and would like to know what is comparable to Mazdaspeed, as far as performance and feel (ie, any aftermarket items that just get name brand to Mazdaspeed - MS6 has this, based on what I have read)? Based on what I have found out, the combine cost for parts alone is roughly $600.

shinronin 09-29-2006 10:27 AM

tein s. tech springs should be closest in feel to MS springs:
MS
front drop: 0.8
rear drop: 0.8
total drop: 1.6
front lbs./in.: 280
front increase: 79%
rear lbs./in.: 190
rear increase: 68%
total lbs./in.: 470

Tein
front drop: 1.4
rear drop: 0.7
total drop: 2.1
front lbs./in.: 207
front increase: 33%
rear lbs./in.: 145
rear increase: 28%
total lbs./in.: 352

speeddemon32 09-29-2006 10:34 AM

Exactly!
a 300 pound spring mean that if 300 pounds is applied to it, it would collaps one inch. 600 would be 2 inces. and so on.

a progressive spring is a little differant. let say 300 for the first inch, and additional 350 for the second inch, and additional 450 for the 3rd inch.... you get the hint.

:)

EDIT: wow I was a little late on that reply. :Peace:


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