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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 10:22 PM
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Seriously, I don't understand the debate. Buy one and if you don't like it toss it and get something else. I bought the RE intake and didn't like it. It sat in a box for a year until i donated it for research. I'll probably get the Revi here real soon. If i don't like it, i'll just get something else. What's the big deal?
Old Aug 8, 2005 | 10:41 PM
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Now answer this rb lovers......... Polak ran 15.095@92.16 with a racing beat intake/exhaust. Thing is, he ran 14.58 @ 94.55mph bonestock previously. Now 1/4 mile times have lots of variables but his trap speeds don't lie. 2.4mph is huge!!!!

so basically I concur that you lose power with that setup.
Old Aug 8, 2005 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by guy321
Seriously, I don't understand the debate. Buy one and if you don't like it toss it and get something else. I bought the RE intake and didn't like it. It sat in a box for a year until i donated it for research. I'll probably get the Revi here real soon. If i don't like it, i'll just get something else. What's the big deal?
Some of us don't want to throw money around like that
Old Aug 8, 2005 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
Now answer this rb lovers......... Polak ran 15.095@92.16 with a racing beat intake/exhaust. Thing is, he ran 14.58 @ 94.55mph bonestock previously. Now 1/4 mile times have lots of variables but his trap speeds don't lie. 2.4mph is huge!!!!

so basically I concur that you lose power with that setup.
Those runs were on completely different days, with (I'm sure) completely different temps/humidity. Doesn't prove anything except the 8 is slow in the quarter mile, stock or otherwise
Old Aug 8, 2005 | 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
Now answer this rb lovers......... Polak ran 15.095@92.16 with a racing beat intake/exhaust. Thing is, he ran 14.58 @ 94.55mph bonestock previously. Now 1/4 mile times have lots of variables but his trap speeds don't lie. 2.4mph is huge!!!!

so basically I concur that you lose power with that setup.

Mmmm hearsay....
Old Aug 9, 2005 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by therm8
Those runs were on completely different days, with (I'm sure) completely different temps/humidity. Doesn't prove anything except the 8 is slow in the quarter mile, stock or otherwise

like I said, trap speeds never lie. Doesn't matter what day, month, year....he lost power. I could under stand 1mph but 2.5mph including the rb mods is pretty rough. I'd also like to mention that he had an rb flywheel and clutch too.
Old Aug 9, 2005 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
like I said, trap speeds never lie. Doesn't matter what day, month, year....he lost power. I could under stand 1mph but 2.5mph including the rb mods is pretty rough. I'd also like to mention that he had an rb flywheel and clutch too.
Really have to temper that statement. Try doing a 1/4 mile on a 60 degree day vs. a 110 degree day. You would lose power pretty much across the board that would lead to longer times & lower trap speeds. Trap speeds have to do with traction (ala acceleration down a 1/4 mile strip is the same whether you lose traction or not at the beginning), but loss of power is loss of power. Everything would suffer, your time, & your trap speed. Whether it was the mods, or the conditions, only POLAK can answer that one.
Old Aug 9, 2005 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Fanman
Whether it was the mods, or the conditions, only POLAK can answer that one.
Like I said:

Hearsay.
Old Aug 9, 2005 | 12:35 AM
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I think I'm just going to go with my original plan to drop in a k&n replacement filter and an rp supercat. Wait for my warrentee to finish and then.......pppssssssssssttttttt
Old Aug 9, 2005 | 12:44 AM
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In this case that actually sounds like a good idea. You can't go wrong that way. At least the money you didn't spend on an intake can be used on something else. I personally hope you aren't talking about nitrous but then again I don't enjoy drag racing so that too is an opinion. Why don't you just save up for a programmable ecu? You know you'll get power there.
Old Aug 9, 2005 | 12:50 AM
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Yeah, I hope that there will more FI kits avail. by then. The way I see it, Mazda did a great job pushing the envelope with this motor. The cat is the biggest bottle neck imo. I don't drag race but I still wouldnt mind seeing what times I can get.
Old Aug 9, 2005 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
Well I'm on the fence in choosing an Intake for the 8.
Which one has a velocity stack? - so to speak.
Old Aug 9, 2005 | 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Nemesis8
Which one has a velocity stack? - so to speak.
let me guess, you got a revi
Old Aug 9, 2005 | 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Fanman
Really have to temper that statement. Try doing a 1/4 mile on a 60 degree day vs. a 110 degree day. You would lose power pretty much across the board that would lead to longer times & lower trap speeds. Trap speeds have to do with traction (ala acceleration down a 1/4 mile strip is the same whether you lose traction or not at the beginning), but loss of power is loss of power. Everything would suffer, your time, & your trap speed. Whether it was the mods, or the conditions, only POLAK can answer that one.
Funny thing, my first track day at Calf. Speedway was at 65 degrees. The second day was at 100 to 107 degrees.

The only difference was the Revi w/CAI. My lap times were 2 seconds better.

The RB intake w/CAI works.
Old Aug 9, 2005 | 01:15 AM
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tires could do that too!
Old Aug 9, 2005 | 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
tires could do that too!
Yeah, but then he would have had a 4 second difference.

We should rename this thread to "Showdown: DARKMAZ8 vs. Everyone!" logic will cease to exist, hearsay will fly. Call your local cable provider for details.

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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
... but I don't see why anyone could say anything negative about this new k&n intake without seeing the results first.
Results aside, aesthetically the winner is REVi.
Old Aug 9, 2005 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by staticlag
What is the errorband of their water brake dyno????

Simple calculus guys, area under the curve will always win over single stiff peaks.

oh wow... "1.95hp" worth of area under the curve for $300

Funny thing is after I helped spend a couple tens of thousands of dollars at a former employer, the result was without a person being told a mod is done they can't feel anything less then a 5% difference in power... but oh that 1.95hp must really make the car pull
Old Aug 9, 2005 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
I think I'm just going to go with my original plan to drop in a k&n replacement filter and an rp supercat.

thats my plan as well
Old Aug 9, 2005 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by r0tor
...the result was without a person being told a mod is done they can't feel anything less then a 5% difference in power... but oh that 1.95hp must really make the car pull
According to that no intake will be noticable including the K&N.

This thread has gone on long enough. We all know how everyone thinks and which ones they support. The bottom line is buy the one you want. There will always be K&N supporters and there will always be RB supporters. The other companies have their followers too. There's no point in letting this continue as nothing is going to change and there is no new info to contribute.
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