Should a novice own a turbo/sc ?
01-25-2008, 04:07 PM
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Should a novice own a turbo/sc ?
When it comes to cars, I dont know much. If I managed to find a professional in OH to install a Turbo/SC would I still be making a mistake? If something goes wrong I wouldnt have the slightest idea how to fix it myself. That being, my fear is that my car would end up being a high maintenance rotary with a turbo, that no ordinary mechanic will want to work on it, and there are no tuner shops in the Akron OH area.
Do you think I should just drop the idea of adding power and accept the stock car for what it is? Or should I bite the bullet, get one installed PROFESSIONALY, and expect to have it serve as a reliable daily driver?
Do you think I should just drop the idea of adding power and accept the stock car for what it is? Or should I bite the bullet, get one installed PROFESSIONALY, and expect to have it serve as a reliable daily driver?
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01-25-2008, 04:24 PM
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I'm no expert but I would suggest you not just because you might not know what feels, sounds, or smells right if something was wrong. Plus finding someone to tune a rotary and work on one is harder, also if you don't know how to fix it yourself where will you take it if no one works on rotaries in your area?
Once again I suggest not to do it.
01-25-2008, 04:44 PM
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I am a novice as well. I have been doing some pretty extensive reading on the FI thread. I would suggest doing some research and everything will come together in time. You cant learn this stuff over night. lol. Happy reading
01-25-2008, 06:32 PM
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For the OP: Read up on all the turbo and SC information here on this forum and start educating yourself. Ignorance is not bliss in this case as taking an factory NA car and making it FI comes with inherent risks above and beyond a factory FI car.
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Wait...nevermind, we don't actually want a Mazdaspeed Turbo. Knowing MNAO, it'll be OVERPRICED, underpowered, and still void our warranty. 
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01-25-2008, 08:30 PM
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I wouldn't recommend it. FI on a NA car isn't bolt on and forget. You need to monitor it and make sure it's up to spec. If you start going lean, or run on some bad gas, you might not like the results.
Low risk? How so? In fact, the install time seems to rival the greddy turbo, and when you factor in that the SC is loading down the engine and generating boost at idle, it seems a sub par choice.
Low risk? How so? In fact, the install time seems to rival the greddy turbo, and when you factor in that the SC is loading down the engine and generating boost at idle, it seems a sub par choice.
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01-26-2008, 12:38 AM
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When it comes to cars, I dont know much. If I managed to find a professional in OH to install a Turbo/SC would I still be making a mistake? If something goes wrong I wouldnt have the slightest idea how to fix it myself. That being, my fear is that my car would end up being a high maintenance rotary with a turbo, that no ordinary mechanic will want to work on it, and there are no tuner shops in the Akron OH area.
Do you think I should just drop the idea of adding power and accept the stock car for what it is? Or should I bite the bullet, get one installed PROFESSIONALY, and expect to have it serve as a reliable daily driver?
(I know there has to be similar threads out there for this, but I didnt know what to search for. Any links would be appreciated)
Do you think I should just drop the idea of adding power and accept the stock car for what it is? Or should I bite the bullet, get one installed PROFESSIONALY, and expect to have it serve as a reliable daily driver?
(I know there has to be similar threads out there for this, but I didnt know what to search for. Any links would be appreciated)
if you asked ? you should not do it..
simple.
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01-26-2008, 11:11 AM
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FI means forced induction like a supercharger or turbocharger that forces more air into the engine. NA is naturally aspirated and is how all 8s come stock. NA is basically the engine taking in the air by itself.
01-26-2008, 03:58 PM
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Item for item the petit supercharger is easier to install in every way.
Ask yourself this question MM.
If your mom (assuming she knows nothing about cars) had both a greddy kit to intall and a petit kit to install without help. Which one do you think she would finish installing first?
01-26-2008, 04:32 PM
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"Finish installing"?
You mean just bolting it to the car? Maybe the Pettit in theory, but they would be equal at best in reality.
But that is because the Pettit kit is so incomplete and so under-engineered that it would be foolhardy to run it as it ships.
Do feel informed by the SSX install - much of the installation was done the day before.
It took two guys who are very familiar with the kit two days to install it.
I can install the entire GReddy kit by myself in one day.
For someone that is completely uninitiated, both would be an adventure, but the GReddy kit will work properly out of the box.
No shredded belts, failing pulleys or lopey idle - all "features" that must be addressed by help from Pettit. Not to mention the slew of peripherals that are required to get useable power out of the thing.
The GReddy kit's only potential downfall for immediate operation is the tune and that is an equally problematic issue with the Pettit, which must be addressed by shipping off your PCM.
Even so, the GReddy tune has been addressed a multitude of ways and even adding the Int-X for a "fool-proof" install still leaves you with an easier, cheaper and more reliable and powerful solution out of the box with a confirmed, unquestionable upgrade path to far superior power and drivability.
Now, add to that the other kits available out there (turbo and S/C alike) and you have an incredible menu from which to select. Which seem to be actually working?
And I don't mean minimally.
How are testimonials "truth"? Where are the dynos? Where are the install pics? Where are the lists of people that have installed these things themselves? You are going to look at the stupendously long list of turbo successes and failures and compare it to the nearly nonexistent list of Pettit self-installations?
You mean just bolting it to the car? Maybe the Pettit in theory, but they would be equal at best in reality.
But that is because the Pettit kit is so incomplete and so under-engineered that it would be foolhardy to run it as it ships.
Do feel informed by the SSX install - much of the installation was done the day before.
It took two guys who are very familiar with the kit two days to install it.
I can install the entire GReddy kit by myself in one day.
For someone that is completely uninitiated, both would be an adventure, but the GReddy kit will work properly out of the box.
No shredded belts, failing pulleys or lopey idle - all "features" that must be addressed by help from Pettit. Not to mention the slew of peripherals that are required to get useable power out of the thing.
The GReddy kit's only potential downfall for immediate operation is the tune and that is an equally problematic issue with the Pettit, which must be addressed by shipping off your PCM.
Even so, the GReddy tune has been addressed a multitude of ways and even adding the Int-X for a "fool-proof" install still leaves you with an easier, cheaper and more reliable and powerful solution out of the box with a confirmed, unquestionable upgrade path to far superior power and drivability.
Now, add to that the other kits available out there (turbo and S/C alike) and you have an incredible menu from which to select. Which seem to be actually working?
And I don't mean minimally.
How are testimonials "truth"? Where are the dynos? Where are the install pics? Where are the lists of people that have installed these things themselves? You are going to look at the stupendously long list of turbo successes and failures and compare it to the nearly nonexistent list of Pettit self-installations?
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