Notices
Series I Aftermarket Performance Modifications Discussion of power adding modifications

rx8 vs s2000

Thread Tools
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Nov 2, 2004 | 04:13 PM
  #1  
hamsta's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 48
Likes: 0
From: TX
rx8 vs s2000

dont know if this thread has been posted but just wondering what performance parts out there we can get to have the same or better performance than a s2000? instead of a turbo
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2004 | 04:30 PM
  #2  
IZoomZoomI's Avatar
Boost needed
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,557
Likes: 0
From: San Jose, CA
stiffer suspension, lose a little weight you should be good to go. Straightline is a different story though.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2004 | 04:39 PM
  #3  
ZoomZoomH's Avatar
Mulligan User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,612
Likes: 3
From: caddyshack
how many s2k vs rx8 thread do we need on this forum....
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2004 | 04:44 PM
  #4  
rev-2-9k's Avatar
Space Cadet
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 159
Likes: 0
From: Houston TX
they are so close already it shouldn't take much.

RB suspension, flywheel, CZ, and midpipe should do it.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2004 | 06:01 PM
  #5  
Icemastr's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 605
Likes: 0
From: Redmond, WA
Buy a base, remove the A/C, go on a diet. Peice of cake.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2004 | 06:17 PM
  #6  
grapes's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 303
Likes: 0
From: Cape Cod
Icemastr- now those are good mods!!!
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2004 | 09:43 PM
  #7  
Razz1's Avatar
Mu ha.. ha...
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,361
Likes: 3
From: Cali
Pray.

You'll never beat a good driver who can get to 164 plus at a blink of an eye.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2004 | 09:46 PM
  #8  
hamsta's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 48
Likes: 0
From: TX
why are the s2000 top speed is like 175 mph and rx8 is so less
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2004 | 11:57 PM
  #9  
Jedi54's Avatar
Administrator
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 22,606
Likes: 3,474
From: The Dark Side
what is the top speed of the RX8?
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2004 | 12:16 AM
  #10  
IZoomZoomI's Avatar
Boost needed
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,557
Likes: 0
From: San Jose, CA
has to do maybe with the gear ratios and hp.

either way top speed doesn't matter much to me, the top speed on my 8 so far as I see it is 85. :p
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2004 | 02:38 AM
  #11  
PedalFaster's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 302
Likes: 0
From: Seattle, WA
Originally Posted by hamsta
why are the s2000 top speed is like 175 mph and rx8 is so less
The S2000 can't go anywhere near 175 mph stock. According to Road & Track, the S2000 tops out at 163 mph, and the RX-8 is limited at 148 mph.

Steve
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2004 | 08:27 AM
  #12  
RotorManiac's Avatar
Absolute Rotary Madness
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,291
Likes: 0
From: Thessaloniki, Greece
The '04 S2000 runs on 17s, softer supspension and has 10hp less (230hp -at least the euro version that I know). It's still lighter though, but it's slower than previous models. The performance gap with the 8 should be smaller now.

As for the top speed of the 8, its not limited. I've seen 151mph with ease, while friends of mine have reached 163mph... but comparing top speeds is lame.
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2004 | 09:18 AM
  #13  
Genom's Avatar
Not so Super right now
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,493
Likes: 0
From: Beyond that there swamp.
Isnt the new s2k 10HP more?
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2004 | 09:57 AM
  #14  
Banannie's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by RotorManiac
The '04 S2000 runs on 17s, softer supspension and has 10hp less (230hp -at least the euro version that I know). It's still lighter though, but it's slower than previous models. The performance gap with the 8 should be smaller now.
Sorry, but the 2.2L S2K engine is stronger than the 2.0L. Unlike the Mazda power ratings, it is believed that although both are rated at 240hp, the 2.2L actually is stonger than the 2.0L, which has been proven out by numerous dyno tests. I've owned 4 S2K's, from 2000-2004 models, so yes, I do know what I'm talkin about! :D

Even the 2004 cars are stiffer in suspension than the RX8 (which I have now). The only way for an 8 to catch a stock S2K would be for it to go on a serious diet, gain some HP, and stiffen the suspension.
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2004 | 03:05 PM
  #15  
PedalFaster's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 302
Likes: 0
From: Seattle, WA
Originally Posted by RotorManiac
The '04 S2000 runs on 17s, softer supspension and has 10hp less (230hp -at least the euro version that I know). It's still lighter though, but it's slower than previous models. The performance gap with the 8 should be smaller now.

As for the top speed of the 8, its not limited. I've seen 151mph with ease, while friends of mine have reached 163mph... but comparing top speeds is lame.
Pretty much every car's speedo reads optimistically -- just because your speedo read 151 mph doesn't mean you weren't actually going 148 mph. Anyway, you're referring to a Greek model RX-8, whereas Road & Track tests North American cars; it's possible American cars are limited and Greek ones aren't.

As Banannie pointed out, in North America, the '04 S2000's 2.2 L engine is rated at 240 hp, but is believed to produce more. I don't have power stats for the rest of the world, but since the rest of the world retained the previous 2.0 L engine, I don't see why they'd make less power.

Although the suspension was revised on the '04 S2000, consensus is that performance differences between it and the earlier models are vanishingly small; I've never seen someone who'd performed objective tests say that it's definitely slower, although there are some situations where the earlier cars have an advantage.

Back to the original question, having driven Banannie's lightly prepped RX-8 as well as all manner of S2000s ranging from stock to fully prepped for SCCA Stock competition, I have to agree with her that, although the RX-8's a fun car, it's got its work cut out for it keeping up with an S2000 around a track.

Steve
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2004 | 03:50 PM
  #16  
RotorManiac's Avatar
Absolute Rotary Madness
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,291
Likes: 0
From: Thessaloniki, Greece
Ok guys:o I guess either the models differ or some mags that I've read were wrong...
As for the top speed our cars can definately go faster than 148mph
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
05TR1CH
New Member Forum
14
Apr 18, 2023 04:56 AM
Skyl3r
New Member Forum
148
Dec 2, 2019 04:51 PM
SupraG
RX-8's For Sale/Wanted
7
Sep 21, 2015 12:09 AM
vetteor8
New Member Forum
14
Jul 25, 2015 11:43 AM
RX7.9
New Member Forum
0
Jul 20, 2015 12:01 PM



You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:48 PM.