Get over yourself buddy. Just because I do not have your experience doesnt mean I am a "fool" or an "idiot". I thought you where being insulting to Chuck because of a specific reason, but now I see your the idiot if you think calling people names rather than offering an explanantion for the admitted hundreds of newbies here would benefit anybody.

Nicely done.

 

Heav'n hath no rage like love to hatred turn'd, Nor Hell a fury, like a compaddict scorn'd.

 

Amen!

 

Yes, he's well on his way to becoming the next "polished-tubing-and-air-filter" tycoon. If it were possible to sell effective intakes for $35, including the cost of labor, tooling, and rent for a facility--don't you think one of the many aftermarket companies out there would have done so, and stole all the business? (By "effective", I don't mean 10 inches of scrap PVC from Home Depot, covered with a sock, sticking through a hole in the hood.)

Exactly. If you can doctor the graphs, you can doctor the source data I'm guessing. The company I work for doesn't give out MS Word documents or AutoCAD files for this very reason--the customer can easily change them and claim anything they want.

 

I installed the intake last Thursday when it arrived (sooner than expected) and I am impressed with fit, finish, and performance.
Mid range and top end are vastly better. I will do back to back dyno work early next week to confirm what the butt dyno is telling me. After that I will develop my own exhaust system utilizing cnc mandrel bent tubing, laser cut flanges etc.
If you want to see previous results of my work check out www.teammoonexhaust.com. SportCompact magazine rated us number one in their shootout on the MR2 Spyder exhaust and I hope to be able to produce something for my 8 that will be of premium quality and performance. As always, dyno results will be posted assuming that the results are worthy of production.
I hope that this will compliment Chuck's intake.

 

Yikes... Sounds like great news for RX8 owners.
PoMan, we look forward to your results! Although favorable results might mean some of us will have some crow to clean up off our plates.

old famous quote:
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I think my biggest mistake is arguing with idiots.

I keep looking for smart people in this thread even though I know that informed smart people saw the first few posts and never looked back.

Enjoy the bliss.

Vince
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Poman- It does'nt matter if you dyno it back to back or not....because you won't release the "raw data" I'm shure. And plus I'm shure Chuck is paying you.

CJ:D

 

I'll release bloody raw data with a pic of the car on the dyno if it'll put a smile on your face. I wouldn't know Chuck if he walked in to my shop. All I can say at this point is that the man is an honest business man like myself and that he is selling a legitimate product that I plan to test myself to prove what I am feeling in the seat of my pants.

 

PoMan, pp13bnos was kidding!

 

Smiles are very good!

Vince

 

I know he was And I was just being sarcastic. (sp?) No offence poman, I was just joking around poking at Vince a little bit. CJ

 

Well, if 21 people sign up for the RE intake, the price drops to $200 with the group buy. As soon as I get permission from my wife, I'm in!

 

Chuck,

Can you supply the filter to the UK?

Also, is anyone thinking about signing up to the group buy for this thing?


-andy-

 

Yes, it can be shipped to UK or any other country. Email me at rotaryextreme@aol.com for details.

Chuck Huang
http://www.rotaryextreme.com

 

Go to this thread and you will see it


https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...threadid=15203

Chuck Huang
http://www.rotaryextreme.com

 

the closest thing to a report on performance gains in that thread is The other buyer who posted also wrote about how it sounds great. That's nice and all, but there's still no independent verification of the power increase claims!

Regards,
Gordon

 

If you pay for their dyno runs, I am pretty sure they will be glad to get you the verification you need.

Chuck Huang
http://www.rotaryextreme.com

 

This is my first rotor, and i haven't really heard much about Rotary Extreme. I was wondering as to the quality of their products and their company?

 

Beyond reproach.

 

My point was simply that compaddict was questioning the raw data of the dyno charts you posted, and you and several others throughout this thread said that the data would be verified by customer reviews once the intake was shipping. I'm not questioning the dyno runs you did, but this is exactly the problem with customer reviews - no one actually puts it on a dyno to independently, objectively, confirm the power increase. All that ever seems to be posted with most people who install intake or exhaust mods is "sounds great" and "my butt dyno tells me it's faster". That's great, but it isn't really a valid confirmation of the power increase. In fact, this only supports compaddicts argument that buyers always want to feel an improvement in performance to justify their expenditure. Butt dynos are notoriously unreliable in quantifying performance improvements!

How are we supposed to use these sort of customer reviews to decide if this intake (or any other intake) really does provide the promised power? They're pretty unconvincing.

I should point out that I'm not in the market for an intake or exhaust, so it doesn't make any difference to me personally, I'm just interested in knowing what real improvements are available. So far, we still only have the vendor claims to go by to evaluate the relative merits of the different intake offerings or exhaust offerings. If I were going to put an intake on my car (or exhaust), you can be sure that I'd be getting a before/after dyno run to verify an improvement (how else could I exercise a money-back guarantee?). It just surprises me that nobody so far who is investing in these improvements is doing any dyno testing to evaluate the increases they're supposedly getting, or to track the improvements contributed by each component.

Regards,
Gordon

 

I gotta agree....plus........you trying to tell me my 8 would only have 30 hp at 1500 rpm?? Don't believe so. Looks like they just took the original curves and rotated them slightly.

 

Ok.....so how do I go about finding out where a dyno is in my area? I know nothing about dynos, how they work or are set up. Hell, i'm not even a motor/rotor head, I just work on helicopters for a living. I love my 8, HP or no HP.........well if there was no HP it would be sitting still............

BAck to my point, what kind of place do I look for in the yellow pages that would have a dyno and what would it cost for runs, approximately?

 

If you have a slight idea of how HP is related to torque and rpm, you would not have said this. How much HP do you think there is at 1500 rpm? 100? It' s not about what you believe, it's based on a math equation.

 

Go to http://www.pettitracing.com. They have a dyno. They are in FL but FL is pretty big so I don't know how close they are to you.

 

Try:
http://www.dynojet.com/ldynocntr.shtml

Most places are around 65.00 per hour. Bring a couple of floppy disks so you can save your dyno data.

Vince