Racing Beat REVi Intake System
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From: Toronto/Florida
Originally Posted by rotarygod
I wouldn't consider it a lie. The engine when properly tuned CAN make 238 or even 247 hp! Ask Paul Yaw, he's done it. The problem is that they "estimated" the wrong amount for the final state of tune.
Just consider this, Chevy under rates the LS1 engines in the Z-28's. To avoid a double standard, they too must have lied about their "claims". It's amazing how suddenly the exact same thing is no longer a negative but rather a positive! In order to be honest, they should claim exactly the number those cars put out but they don't.
How does that make Mazda liars, but GM not? If it's not the same thing, it's a perception problem and therefore a double standard.
Just consider this, Chevy under rates the LS1 engines in the Z-28's. To avoid a double standard, they too must have lied about their "claims". It's amazing how suddenly the exact same thing is no longer a negative but rather a positive! In order to be honest, they should claim exactly the number those cars put out but they don't.
How does that make Mazda liars, but GM not? If it's not the same thing, it's a perception problem and therefore a double standard.
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That still doesn't answer my question. Are GM liars too because they also didn't rate the LS1 with the power it actually puts out? It doesn't matter if it's higher or lower. If it's not the same, it's not the same.
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
That still doesn't answer my question. Are GM liars too because they also didn't rate the LS1 with the power it actually puts out? It doesn't matter if it's higher or lower. If it's not the same, it's not the same.
Originally Posted by zoom44
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
I'm on ignore!!! Hahahahaha!!!!! That just made my day! :D Actually I don't personally have a problem with him so whatever makes him happy.
The reason being is that he's a typical miseducated 2nd gen RX-7 owner. (not because of the car but because of the mentality that most of those kids have that own them and their lack of experience) (Strangely enough he's also a moderator on the RX-7 forum). Most of those people are very close minded and have a bad habit of doing things wrong even after it has been proven time and time again to not work and strangely enough refute what does work.
The reason being is that he's a typical miseducated 2nd gen RX-7 owner. (not because of the car but because of the mentality that most of those kids have that own them and their lack of experience) (Strangely enough he's also a moderator on the RX-7 forum). Most of those people are very close minded and have a bad habit of doing things wrong even after it has been proven time and time again to not work and strangely enough refute what does work.
I decide to actually read your post and what do I find? You making *** stupid assumptions again and acting like you're the only intelligent person in the world *sigh*
It's also funny coming from someone who was formerly WARNED on rx7club for doing **** like this. Rotarygod stole images from a very established, well known and well respected engine builder's website and used them as examples of "how not to port" on rx7club. It was very blatent who he was talking about and even in a former thread, before it was deleted/cleaned up, he attacked the person by naming them and saying how bad of a job this is. Not only is this person very well known and respected in the rotary community but he was also an advertiser of rx7club. Now I realize I'm actually doing something similar right now to Racing Beat, but the difference is rotarygod did this in multiple threads, stole images from an owner, badmouthed him, and gave no real fact other than his "beliefs."
Anyways, what makes you so sure I'm uneducated or that you are in fact "educated" sir? Is it because I'm younger than you? Because you act like you have the mentality that "older makes you wiser." And who said I was cheap? Yes lots of 2nd gen owners are cheap and poor, but do you even have any idea how much I've spent on my 2nd gen? Or how much time and effort (and money) I've put into it? No, you're just making an assumption because I don't think the expensive RB crap is worth it. That doesn't have much to do with price except for the fact I think the ingenuity, gains, and price do not all coincide.
You can also take your misconceptions and stereotyping and shove them.
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Originally Posted by bureau13
Just to pick on this one statement because it stands out to me...what RX-8 exhausts are significantly cheaper than RB's? Seriously, its right about the average price for the most popular exhausts, which happen to put it on the low side of things.
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Originally Posted by Nemesis8
I'm old enough that I could be your Father 
Well age is only a number, your state of mind and personal perception are what really matter. I haven't considered myself a "kid" since I was about 13 or 14 years old.
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For those that have installed this, can it be done with simple tools? What is the extent to which I have to take my car apart?
I have basic tools, but would have to do this in my driveway. Does the bumper have to come off?
I have basic tools, but would have to do this in my driveway. Does the bumper have to come off?
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Originally Posted by psionic1
For those that have installed this, can it be done with simple tools? What is the extent to which I have to take my car apart?
I have basic tools, but would have to do this in my driveway. Does the bumper have to come off?
I have basic tools, but would have to do this in my driveway. Does the bumper have to come off?
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Originally Posted by psionic1
For those that have installed this, can it be done with simple tools? What is the extent to which I have to take my car apart?
I have basic tools, but would have to do this in my driveway. Does the bumper have to come off?
I have basic tools, but would have to do this in my driveway. Does the bumper have to come off?
so what sort of places would be able to install this intake? Would mazda dealerships install this intake without asking too many questions? (i'm guessing they wouldnt cover your intake under warranty anymore)
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From: Anaheim, CA
As expected, the phone has been ringing off the hook all day with questions about this intake!
Sorry for the delay in getting the information up on the site until the end of the day, but Jim Mederer was still undertaking some last minute testing on this unit until about 3 pm!
People have been asking about the emissions statement at the bottom of the page, we place that there for ALL the non-emission exempt parts that we offer. This doesn’t mean that we won’t attempt to obtain a CARB exemption; the rather lengthy and involved process on this part just hasn’t been started yet. Also, because the process is so involved, I prefer to undergo the testing only once if possible. In many cases, waiting a year or two in an attempt to group model years together will eliminate the need to retest a product. For example, if I submitted the application now, it would be for the 2004-2005 model year. Depending on the changes that Mazda makes to the later model years, it is possible that we might need to retest for the 2006, 2007 or later models. If we just wait until 2007, then we only need to under the test once, and we will have 2004-2007 covered. Got it? Since we have a few years before a new car must undergo its first CA required smog test, we have some breathing room with regards to this exemption.
I am currently working on much more information regarding this intake system and will be placing it up on the site in the next few days.
Jim Langer
Racing Beat, Inc.
Sorry for the delay in getting the information up on the site until the end of the day, but Jim Mederer was still undertaking some last minute testing on this unit until about 3 pm!
People have been asking about the emissions statement at the bottom of the page, we place that there for ALL the non-emission exempt parts that we offer. This doesn’t mean that we won’t attempt to obtain a CARB exemption; the rather lengthy and involved process on this part just hasn’t been started yet. Also, because the process is so involved, I prefer to undergo the testing only once if possible. In many cases, waiting a year or two in an attempt to group model years together will eliminate the need to retest a product. For example, if I submitted the application now, it would be for the 2004-2005 model year. Depending on the changes that Mazda makes to the later model years, it is possible that we might need to retest for the 2006, 2007 or later models. If we just wait until 2007, then we only need to under the test once, and we will have 2004-2007 covered. Got it? Since we have a few years before a new car must undergo its first CA required smog test, we have some breathing room with regards to this exemption.
I am currently working on much more information regarding this intake system and will be placing it up on the site in the next few days.
Jim Langer
Racing Beat, Inc.
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From: Houston, Texas
Installing the intake is easy, while your installing the intake, i would install oil cooler and A/C condenser screens since you'll have the bumper off, be it the Racing Beat ones or DIY screens.
Don't ask how I know how important those screens are.
Don't ask how I know how important those screens are.