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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 10:06 PM
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well it seems like there will be a lot more people buying this now that der's is not happening
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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derwankle isn't going to make his pod cluster?
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 10:15 PM
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Nope must use RB's
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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i like it..............mabe for christmas to myself
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 11:29 PM
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I like it too, but I think I might want it with new radiator, cuz theres almost no point of getting this gauge with N/A and almost everything stock.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 07:05 AM
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mechanical guages?!? Why in the world would they do that - all OEM's were forced away from those things years ago by their lawyers
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 09:38 AM
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Looks great, but I need something closer to eye level.

Mechanicals are about 1/2 the cost of similar electrics.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 09:42 AM
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Mechanicals are about 1/2 the cost of similar electrics.[/QUOTE]

Yes, and 10 times more reliable
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Boris and Natasha
Mechanicals are about 1/2 the cost of similar electrics.

Yes, and 10 times more reliable
Really? I hadn't heard that before... *ponder ponder*
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Boris and Natasha
Mechanicals are about 1/2 the cost of similar electrics.
Yes, and 10 times more reliable[/QUOTE]

and only a leak away from a car fire...
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 11:44 AM
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Went to the "other" site and looks like N Rider is correct. Derwankle has decided to part ways with his car next month and stopping development of his guage pod.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by r0tor
Yes, and 10 times more reliable
and only a leak away from a car fire...[/QUOTE]

Im wondering about that part too, since its mechincal, its possible that it might leak someday.

Catching some fire not gonna be funny, especially its so close to all the HOT stuff.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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WOW: a fire really? Ive never heard of that happening from a broken oil gage line. All I've ever used is mechanical gages. Now I don't think I would like the idea of a mech. fuel press or NOS line coming into the cabin. hehe
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 04:18 PM
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mechanical guages?!? Why in the world would they do that - all OEM's were forced away from those things years ago by their lawyers
I hadn't heard about the legal aspect of this, but since RB isn't providing this OEM part for this vehicle it's prolly legal.

Since you can choose to install RB's gauges the liability is not the same for a stock gauge for which you have no choice.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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Is something like this really necessary for a N/A car??? I mean, don't get me wrong, it would be interesting to be able to moniter this stuff but unless you have some serious mods(F/I) would there really be anything to worry about that the gauges would monitor?
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
Went to the "other" site and looks like N Rider is correct. Derwankle has decided to part ways with his car next month and stopping development of his guage pod.
yeah its a major bummer for a lot of people but i respect his decision
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 05:00 PM
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Growing up almost all cars came standard with gages, now its's just idiot lights
"'they call them that for a good reason" . I prefer to see a problem as it slowly develops instead of waiting for the event to happen and the light come on to tell me I'm screwed. Also, to many times I've seen cars overheat, alternators quit, and complete loss of oil pressure with no idiot lights coming on. A small price to pay for a $30k sports machine, at least for me.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by t-run/8
Is something like this really necessary for a N/A car??? I mean, don't get me wrong, it would be interesting to be able to moniter this stuff but unless you have some serious mods(F/I) would there really be anything to worry about that the gauges would monitor?
Something a little different with rotary is 2 cooling systems. One for water and one for oil. If debris were to block your oil coolers, the oil could overheat and cause damage before it registers hot on the water side. With this setup you can see oil temp independent of water temp and take action before any damage is done. The likelihood of is happening is very low but for the cost of this set up its worth it just for the piece of mind.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Argento Otto
I hadn't heard about the legal aspect of this, but since RB isn't providing this OEM part for this vehicle it's prolly legal.

Since you can choose to install RB's gauges the liability is not the same for a stock gauge for which you have no choice.
was questioning the wisdom, not the legality
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by t-run/8
Is something like this really necessary for a N/A car??? I mean, don't get me wrong, it would be interesting to be able to moniter this stuff but unless you have some serious mods(F/I) would there really be anything to worry about that the gauges would monitor?
A true oil-pressure gauge is a useful tool. Once you are familiar with your vehicles normal opeation, it gives you a truer indication of when the engine has truly reached its normal operating temperature. This is because the oils viscosity changes (pressure drops) and then levels off when the engine is fully warm. It's certainly a better indication than the stock coolant gauge. This is especially useful in a rotary, which doesn't like to be revved hard until it's warmed up. The stock oil pressure guage is an idiot light gussied up to look like a gauge -- which makes it even less useful than an idiot light. Same basically goes for the stock coolant gauge. Mazda is afraid too many people would be confused by *real* pressure and temperature readings.

But if I understand the discussion, this thing is bringing the actual fluids up into the dash? If that is the case, count me out. I'd rather not add a potential point of failure to the systems I'm trying to protect. And I sure don't want hot oil, or worse, steaming coolant spraying inside my dash and over the electronics!
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 08:29 PM
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B.S. NUBO ya close to my age any car we drove brought amp meters "which are dangerous" oil lines and god knows what in the cabin, did ya ever have a mishap?
nuff said
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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Hey is it just me, or would anyone else be interested in this product without the gauges? I like the product, but I would like to use the autometer nexus gauges with this.
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Boris and Natasha
B.S. NUBO ya close to my age any car we drove brought amp meters "which are dangerous" oil lines and god knows what in the cabin, did ya ever have a mishap?
nuff said
Go ahead and add a mechanical fuel pressure gauge to yours if you like. I'll stick with my BS.
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 04:33 AM
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OK lol
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 06:03 AM
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Don't panic over mechanicals until you read the details. For example, from the instructions for Autometer's Fuel Pressure Gauge:

Safety First
The Fuel Pressure Gauge with Isolator allows interior mounting of the gauge, without the danger of routing a line containing fuel into the driving compartment. This is accomplished by plumbing the isolator into the fuel system between the fuel pump and the gauge. The line between the fuel pump and the isolator is filled with fuel, while the line connecting the isolator to the gauge is filled with an incompressible non-flammable fluid. When pressurized, the fuel bears against a diaphragm inside the isolator, which transmits the pressure through the line connecting the isolator to the gauge. The corresponding fuel pressure is then displayed on the gauge.
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