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Old 05-17-2004, 08:31 PM
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New Trust intake

Hey y'all anyone seen the trust cold air intake before?

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Looks interesting, nice and low away from the engine bay, they are claiming about 10hp.
Anyone got one?
I am interested in getting one, but will having it so low mean that it will get dirty and that rain etc.. will affect it?

Also HKS are doing a racing suction system for the RX8 as well, but it is VERY VERY expensive, and I can't find any pics, just that they are actually doing one.
The trust one is (in NZ dollars) $580, where as the HKS is $1131, I guess about half those prices for you american guys.
Has any one got any info or pics for this system either?
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Way too low to the ground for Houston, TX. Cali might be fine but not TX, Florida, Lousianna, etc.

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It won't fit on North American RX-8s - we have an oil cooler in the spot where the Trust filter sits. But aside from that - it seems kind of silly to have a looong intake pipe to move the filter way down there!

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Oh ok, I'm in NZ, and we are left hand drive down here, so all the japanese parts fit perfectly. Yeah our oil coolers are on the other side.

I think the whole idea of this particular intake is to move the filter down there! Get it outta the engine bay etc...
I don't know exactly where the standard air box picks air up from but I assume that with this intake the air isn't gonna be traveling any further than standard. Not to mention a reasonably straight mandral bent pipe is gonna be a lot better for the flow than the stock air box!
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Originally posted by DCD
Oh ok, I'm in NZ, and we are left hand drive down here, so all the japanese parts fit perfectly. Yeah our oil coolers are on the other side.


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Not to mention a reasonably straight mandral bent pipe is gonna be a lot better for the flow than the stock air box!
we have 2 oil coolers one on each side.

also i wouldn't bet on the airflow being much better. and if there is more then a 5 hp improvement i would be mega-suprised.
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You guys have two oil coolers? Interesting any particular reason for that does anyone know?

Yeah I have modded a few cars in my time, and we all know that intakes give questionable power. But you can't deny that an intake changes the sound, and I want a little more from my RX8. I have heard they sound very nice with an intake, and as long as I don't actually LOSE power, I'm not too fussed. I'm not gonna be sitting here complaining that the intake didn't get me the 10hp.

Basically what I was asking for was I want to know if anyone has any experiance with this particular intake, and if having intakes so low like that will mean that it will not last very long, or its gonna become a hassle everytime it rains, and Im gonna have to clean it every two weeks or something.

The only other intake I can really look at at the moment is the HKS one, as down here in NZ its very easy to get japanese parts but next to impossible to get the wealth of american parts you guys seem to enjoy. And with the HKS one, I can't find any pics, or info at all about it, not to mention its twice the price. The AutoExe I will probably be able to get too but I can't find any pics or info on that one either. I have seen the HKS intake thread but does anyone have any info on any other JAPANESE intakes for the RX8?
Old 05-17-2004, 10:18 PM
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ahh greddy products finally
but weird design
i dont think theres a big need for it(meaning real horseppower gains)sticking with short arm intake.
Old 05-17-2004, 10:58 PM
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Originally posted by DCD
You guys have two oil coolers? Interesting any particular reason for that does anyone know?
Because they didn't give us climate control or hydraulic hood props? :D
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Yeah theres always been debate about whether or not CAI are actually worth it.
In the last 4 cars I have modified, I have always got for an underbonnet solution, maybe it's time to try something different though....
Having the intake so low will also reduce noise in the cabin correct? Will this in turn make it louder outside the car? Hmmm, I hope I can still get a good earful though!! :D
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Originally posted by DCD

The only other intake I can really look at at the moment is the HKS one, as down here in NZ its very easy to get japanese parts but next to impossible to get the wealth of american parts you guys seem to enjoy.
Wealth of american parts? Maybe for hondas and such, but for the really good japanese cars, japan is the best place for parts. (IMO)
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Yeah I also believe that japan do the best aftermarket parts for many japanese parts, but it never hurts to have more choice, and from the sounds a lot of people on this forum are happy with american made exhausts etc....
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UK has 2 oil coolers + climate control...
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Hmm, an interesting note from the japanese fellow I get my parts from. He was saying that this intake was actually designed by RE-Amemiya, then they got Trust to make it for them. I assume for the sake of larger distribution channels or something.
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I don't know how much I believe that. I do know that they two do seem to work together a bit. As Trust's new turbo kit is being developed 'inconjuction" with RE Amemiya, but the word is that Trust is doing all the work. This includes the A/T turbo 8.

As far as Japan being the best place for parts for tuning a Japanese car. Everyone is entiitled to their own opinions and to spend their money where they choose. However, you succintly explain to me how paying $1,000 for JDM cat-back instead of getting Borla or Racing Beat at almost half that price is better. How does that make my car faster? It doesn't.
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Hmmm, I tend to trust this guy. Hes one of NZ's most respected and trusted street tuners. Not to mention hes NZ's importer of many many top japanese brands. But don't take my word for it, if anyone knows better they can correct me, but I tend to trust this guy over others speculations.

Hmmm, well like I was saying we can't really get the American parts, and such down here. I have never seen any of them, and most of the brands are not really known down here. I also said thet a lot of people seem to be happy with them.

I think theres more to it than just pure power output. The big japanese tuning houses make fantastic products. The quality of the parts is just top notch, and I really appreciate the workmanship that many of these products display. I remember the day I opened my brand new trust exhaust for my S15 a few years back. It really was just a beautiful piece of metal. I also like the character of the japanese parts. The noise and performance have always been just spot on for me. They are a hell of a lot better than anything that gets made locally here. Especially for such a beautiful car like the RX8. To be honest I would pay another couple of hundred bucks for the same performance, if the part looked nicer and made the car sound just how I like it.

But remember I have never seen or used any of these american parts.

Oh and to someone who had said something about why is the trust intake so long, I found a thread somewhere on this board that Japan8 had translated (thanks man it was a great source of info for me!!) saying that the length is to take advantage of the ummm, helmholtz (spelling??) tuning or something that the RX8 uses in the intake.
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