no more banning

Looks like the sc rx-8 is coming from mazda sooner then we thought.I just bought the road and track issue of Speed and they confirm a eaton powered supercharger in a Mazda proto-type car.Ill try to scan some pics in tonight if i have time or will do in office tommorrow.


Rough numbers were as follows
275bhp @8300
201 lb-ft @5500
5.5 0-60
Hood scoop functional and looks mean with stock 245 275 stock 19" wheels

If this is a repost im sorry ive been gone awhile.

Icemastr

Umm thats just a prototype. Thats like saying all these concept cars are coming out sooner than we thought.

RXE16T

Well Mazda Australia has been working on a Turbo 8 and they even displayed it at the Sydney International Motor Show, but does that mean it's coming out?

RotorManiac

keep us posted.
I'd like to see those pics...

bowman

The latest issue of RXTuner had a small blurb about the Mazda AU turbo RX8.

"Mazda Australia public relations has already said publicly that there is NO chance of this car making it to production."

---RXTuner, Vol 1 Issue 8


https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...&postcount=125

rumatt

Will the car get more than 10mpg with the SC?

:D

RXE16T

Exactly.
Just because it's built, it does not necessarily mean it is coming out, it's just an evaluation model (concept).

truemagellen

actually its much more horspower than that...those are the current MS specs with flywheel exhaust, etc etc etc

there was a miss print in that article...look in the body of the article for the real HP numbers (or estimated whatever)

Aoshi Shinomori

What are the actual numbers? I don't get the magazine and was wondering if anyone could post the projected numbers? All I have heard is that 275 which is just unimpressive and dissappointing if you ask me. Thanks.

Fanman

They say about 275 hp, and about 200 lb.-ft. of torque. That does seem a bit low, but you have to understand that most factory aftermarket tuners that offer a kit will not be close to the result of the aftermarket tuners because again, like the factory engine they will err on the side of caution as they have to warranty that car. For example, TRD has a supercharger for the V6 engine in it's cars that is only about 40 hp. 275 is a bit disappointing, but I would only expect maybe around 285 hp even at the most for a MS RX8 version if it ever came out here.

RXE16T

Damn right it is. The Zed puts out more than that in NA form.

BOOSTD 7

We're not going to see a MazdaSpeed 8 before Spring of 2006, guarantee. Mazda is SLOW at launching new products, and they first have to launch the new MazdaSpeed 6 in Spring of 2005. It would then take them a year to gear up for the 8, if that is next on their agenda. It might even be longer if they have plans for a MazdaSpeed 3 or something else before the 8.

mtnpass

I know we have covered this issue in previous threads.....a search will yield pics and article itself for those so inclined. I know there are rogue memebers within the Mazda team that are not content with current performance of RX8, however this being said, do we really think Mazda NA will pursue such a costly venture? I will not hold my breath for a FI RX8, I believe we will see RX7 with FI stateside before any RX8 project. The rewards for producing a FI RX8 do not outweigh the cost and r&d. The consumer market and its buying power is not geared toward a FI RX8, but instead the market is leaning towards high performance sedans. And no matter how you approach it the RX8 does not fill that category or demographic.

RXE16T

Personally I see the MS6 being the only FI performance vehicle in the entire Mazda range for a number of years.

But then again, you guys in the US got the Protege Turbo whereas no one else did (I think?)

Icemastr

Oh man you mean the turbo in the Mazdaspeed Miata isn't really a TURBO!?!?! Better return mine if the salesman lied to me saying it had a turbo.

Aoshi Shinomori

The mazdaspeed 6, is a 160 hp engine right? After the turbocharger and all the other mazdaspeed parts, it gets 271 if I remember correctly? That's over 100 horsepower, so that 27 on the 8 seems to still be way too low.

Zaurin

Remember the Mazda6 is far from a performance vehicle. From the factory they have extremely restrictive components (airbox, exhaust, ect), plus the MS6 has low-comp pistons to help it push a helluva lot more boost than the prototype RX-8 is. The RX-8 comes stock from the factory tuned pretty tightly, look at gains from piggyback units like CZ or eManages. They're varying from a max gain of 20whp down to 5whp or less.

rodrigo67

I think mazda learned that , yes they can make the rotary pump much more horse's, but who's going to buy a 45k rx8. The 94/95 rx7 is still the fastest rotary ever made but no one bought the car at 43k because the average sports car junky doesn't want to spend that much.

I'm sure Mazda could put out a faster more powerfull 8, ( there are many articles on how much stronger this motor is compared to past rotaries) but would they sell if the price went up 10k or more. History says that even if it is an excellent car, it won't sell.

takahashi

I totally agree...

Nojooc, I have driven a FTP on the track on Tuesday. It has 290kW right, that thing cannot turn. I am doing 5 seconds slower then I can do in my RX-8!

The chassis and suspension is great in the 8! So any performance gain to say 230kW (or 180kW at the wheel) will come very close to the GT3s!

RXE16T

Sorry.... meant to say the MS6 will be the only newly released FI product in the next few years......

RXE16T

Of course it doesn't turn..... it's the same problem all Falcons have been having for years (better quit while I'm ahead, I hear Gomez coming)

At least you didn't drive a HSV and experience the power steering pump s*** itself mid corner (now I hear Hymee coming)